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DZNZ · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 28

I honestly don't need "real-world" advice from any of you, thanks.

Moonraven: you are not going to teach me the "hard way" at any point in time . . . and for any reason. I do hope we meet up someday. I would really like to say hi to you in person!

Cheers!

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

I didn't offer to teach you the hard way. You will find plenty of other folks out there who will, though, as you are clearly "cruisin' for a bruisin'".

I just bet you'd like to say hi to me in person. I am not similarly inclined, however.

JonnytheMann · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 337 Location: USA

Serena Williams just won her first match at Wimbledon! I am so happy. You guys should be happy, too. Unless you're Justine H-H fans. Wink

I think if you want to make decent money in Latin America, an international school that pays American salaries is a good idea. If I love Buenos Aires and end up wanting to stay there, I'm going to return to the US and finish my teaching certificate & Masters in Tennessee. I'm half-way finished, but I want to go now. Then I am going to return to Buenos Aires and work at an international school.

If you just have a BA and a Celta, I think you'll just get by, but not really be able to save in Latin America.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Sigh. More advice from someone who has never lived and worked in Latin America.

DZNZ · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 28

Well, let's see . . . I was deleted again. However, I included no �foul� language. Interesting. She hopes I will be �road kill� and the moddy does nothing? Again, interesting . . . but now unsurprising.

Let's see if this one is deleted as well . . .

The fact is, "newbies" that moonraven comes into contact with are most likely "angry" because of the way she approaches them. You see, my dear moonraven, you should really think twice about not only what you say, but how you say it. In essence, most of us are strangers here. You do not know who is sitting on the other end. I would advise you to be more careful next time.

Not only did I receive several emails exclaiming that moonraven causes trouble and is a nuisance, but a moddy even admitted that she continually causes problems. When I suggested that he call her out and gently (so she won�t break) put her in her place, he quickly vanished. There is so much partiality that is evident here. But, I will now let it go. However, I am sure that moonraven will have to get the last word, so she will most likely continue this thread all by herself.

Posters like moonraven are truly a cancer to forums in general. I run into such people once in a while, and it never ceases to amaze me what they get away with.

So, once again, we have a classic example of what not to do. I should of ignored her, but she really caught me at a bad time in my life (Mother just passed away) and I used the event as a outlet.

Anyhow, my overreaction aside, newbies beware! You are dealing with a person who is not only extremely bitter, but has a severe case of overconfidence.

PAULH · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan

A PM has been sent.

DZNZ · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 28

Got ther PM. Thanks . . .

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

Edit: Posted before reading your last post. Sorry to hear about your mother.

thelmadatter · Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: sympathy

DZNZ

I also offer you my condolences on the passing of your mom. I lost my mom when I was only 19. Are you around that age? Its tough to lose one's mom at any age but when it happens long before "its supposed to," its even worse. PM me if you need a understanding ear.

JonnytheMann · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 337 Location: USA

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JonnytheMann · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 337 Location: USA

I know there's a lot of competition for jobs at good international schools. I know I'll have to come back to the States and finish my Masters & Teaching Licensure before I have a shot to get a job in one of Buenos Aires' international schools. I'd also need a year or two of teaching in the States, which I would try to do while finishing my Masters. I'd especially love to work as the English teacher at the German international school, but who knows if that could ever work out.

Life has a way of turning out differently from what we'd expect, but this is my plan: to get a job at a private school in BsAs. There might be some "evil rich kids", but I am sure that most are nice. I have friends that work in Nashville's most exclusive private schools that cater to the kids of country music stars and other rich people, and they absolutely love their jobs. Most of the students are excellent and motivated, and the parents are involved and helpful. Many people assume the students in expensive private schools are arrogant rich thugs, but it's a stereotype. I grew up poor and got an academic scholarship to Vandberbilt, where the stereotype is rich white Southern Republican frat boys & daddy's girls. Needless to say, the vast majority of people weren't like that even though if you ask local Nashville people, all Vandy students are spoiled rich brats.

Honestly, a private school in BsAs couldn't be worse than all the ghetto public schools I've subbed in for the past year where I've been threated, harrassed, etc. on a daily basis.

JonnytheMann · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 337 Location: USA

I know there's a lot of competition for jobs at good international schools. I know I'll have to come back to the States and finish my Masters & Teaching Licensure before I have a shot to get a job in one of Buenos Aires' international schools. I'd also need a year or two of teaching in the States, which I would try to do while finishing my Masters. I'd especially love to work as the English teacher at the German international school, but who knows if that could ever work out.

Life has a way of turning out differently from what we'd expect, but this is my plan: to get a job at a private school in BsAs. There might be some "evil rich kids", but I am sure that most are nice. I have friends that work in Nashville's most exclusive private schools that cater to the kids of country music stars and other rich people, and they absolutely love their jobs. Most of the students are excellent and motivated, and the parents are involved and helpful. Many people assume the students in expensive private schools are arrogant rich thugs, but it's a stereotype. I grew up poor and got an academic scholarship to Vandberbilt, where the stereotype is rich white Southern Republican frat boys & daddy's girls. Needless to say, the vast majority of people weren't like that even though if you ask local Nashville people, all Vandy students are spoiled rich brats.

Honestly, a private school in BsAs couldn't be worse than all the ghetto public schools I've subbed in for the past year where I've been threated, harrassed, etc. on a daily basis.

thelmadatter · Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: rich kids

Youre right to an extent (and depending on the school/location maybe a large extent) Ben. I havent worked at an International School but I work at another "rich kid" school. I do get attitude from some students, but fortunately I have a boss who believes in standards. I flunked a number of students who thought they had "bought" a passing grade. While they never said anything to me directly of course, these few students' body language told it all - "I can believe she would do that to ME!"

While Tec on paper, supports this position, whether or they practice what they preach can vary. Some departments have limits on the number of students that can fail and some directors play this game of "Are you SURE these students deserve these grades? Can't you check it again?"

On the other hand, I have met quite a number of serious and very intelligent young people who have been a pleasure to teach.

What I deal with more is the "PLEEEEEAAAAAASSSSEEEEE MISS!" begging. I would love to get a Ghostbusters-like sign made, saying "No Begging" for my office. Might just do it one of these days.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

I have taught in both international schools and universities for rich kids.

I did not have a problem with kids giving me a raft of beep. I have zero tolerance for that stuff, and I am very capable of communicating that to students.

All the students I had were a lot of fun, and some of them were even quite sharp. Their parents were great, too--except for one mother of an 8th grader who tried to put all the blame on her son in a conference we had--once I told her she didn't meet my standards for being a mother, she cleaned up her act fast--and so did her son.

Kids "take the measure" of their teachers starting from the first day. If you let them know that you are a lot of fun, but that you don't take any prisoners, you'll be fine. If you don't, you'll be ground in to hamburger.