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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:20 am Post subject: No degree for Interlang? |
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Compare the two most recent Interlang ads. Is a degree no longer needed at Interlang. Will this no degree policy be extended to the whole of the empire?
Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 10:06 AM Teachers must hold a TEFL qualification equivalent to the CELTA.
INTERLANG requires qualified full-time or summer part-time EFL teachers for immediate start at its 5 branches across Istanbul. Teachers must hold a TEFL qualification equivalent to the CELTA.
Posted: Mon 13th Jun 2005 14:02 GMT Add to My Jobs' Folder
EFL Teachers
Experience No experience required
Positions 15
Details
Interlang, one of Istanbul's leading private language schools, is looking for qualified native-speaker
Qualifications
Minimum requirements for teachers - University degree plus CELTA, Trinity TESOL or equivalent. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: Interlang is trawling for native speakers |
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| Latest job ad is from teflturkey.com and the previous one is from tefl.com |
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corall
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Location: istanbul, turkey
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| i don't think that you can have interlang as the example of whether the whole of the empire will revert to no degree needed hiring. from what i understand the organization is garbage, so the ads don't surprise me at all. |
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31
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps it is a bit unfair to assume that this new policy from Interlang will be extended to the whole empire but as at least 3 parts of the empire happily employ the degreeless it is possible that they will extend it. Or perhaps it is because the Interlang general DOS who does their recruiting has no degree herself.
Sadly Interlang until the end of the nineties had a really good reputation for teacher development but that has all been destroyed now with the Crime takeover. How are they going to get anywhere with backpackers and nutters working for an hourly pittance. Might as well fit turnstiles in the teachers`room if that hasn`t been converted into an extra classroom to make more money. |
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justme
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| Granted this is a growing problem. Anyone have ideas about what we can do to fix it? Maybe some hippie grassroots action is in order here... Are we really powerless? |
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dmb
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| By posting these job ads here you are giving them free advertising and more backpacker teachers will see them. Is that you intention? |
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justme
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Down with backpackers !!!  |
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31
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| By posting these job ads here you are giving them free advertising and more backpacker teachers will see them. Is that you intention? |
No but any backpacker or nutter with or without any qualifications or experience who is already on this forum, is already looking at the jobs board, tefl.com etc. and no doubt has googled tefl turkey/istanbul and come up with the teflturkey site. I did delete the contact details. Any native speaker backpacker/nutter without any qualifications or experience who cannot get an hourly paid tefl job in Istanbul is simply not trying hard enough. |
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whynotme
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:31 am Post subject: |
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31,
after your post i checked teflturkey and found that EF has a similar job advertisement and i started to think why you didnt write it on the forum...could it be because you want to damage ET and its schools? |
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31
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| whynotme wrote: |
31,
after your post i checked teflturkey and found that EF has a similar job advertisement and i started to think why you didnt write it on the forum...could it be because you want to damage ET and its schools? |
EF have always employed people with no degrees. I posted this a very short time ago. If you would care to check the reputation of EF in other forums from China to UK you will see that they like many other ''chain'' schools have a reputation for low pay and conditions and of course employing native speakers without degrees. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| just out of interest 31 why do you look at the china forums. It is notorious for being low paid and full of backpackers, not i thought your scene. |
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31
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| just out of interest 31 why do you look at the china forums. It is notorious for being low paid and full of backpackers, not i thought your scene. |
I look at the Turkey forum even though it is notorious for being low paid and full of backpackers.
I wouldn`t touch tefl in China with a bargepole. I only occasionally look at the China forums to remind myself that things could be worse. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I look at the Turkey forum even though it is notorious for being low paid and full of backpackers.
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Compared to (the rest of?) western Europe? |
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31
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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TEFL is TEFL wherever you are. Of course TEFL in some countries is worse than in others for a variety of reasons.
Just to prove a point. Get invited to an ET branch, lets say Taksim as it is close to you and busy. Not a great time at the moment but anyway, spend a little time observing the teachers when they are NOT in class. Look at what their wearing, listen to what they are talking about. Don`t bother looking at their CVs and photocopies of alleged qualifications. Then tell me I am wrong about what you quoted in your previous post. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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If, as you claim, you are working at ET then you are describing yourself or are you the one exception at ET. Molly,according to his own description, 31 should be easy to spot.  I was actually talking more about the salaries in say Italy or Spain or the UK compared to Turkey and the standard of living. Admitably I have never worked in Italy and Spain but I am only going by job ads I see and the salaries and number of hours teaching |
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