Job Discussion Forums

[bron]

At any school? I stand corrected. But what is the reasoning behind this when private language schools, and I assume also some private secondary schools, judging by the number of schoolgirls in uniform and hijabs that I see in the morning, allow students to wear it?

That article/no-article business was totally off the top of my head. It sounded good at the time, but I'm not sure about it now. I've seen all of them used. Now I'm going to be obsessively watching which article is used with the word "hijab" and when!

[dmb]

[31]

The students take off their hijab or headscarf before they enter the school building.

[molly farquharson]

but it's not called hijba here is it?

i think this hijabbed teacher applied to teach with us. we are not allowed by the govt to hire headscarved women, but we are allowed to have them as students. it is not fair, but burasi turkiye. i think it would be hard to get hired as a covered teacher just about anywhere here, save an imam hatep school (is that right?)

[31]

[bron]

Look, I and my colleagues and friends have had our share of bad experiences with Interlang, but I can tell you for a fact they will not hire someone who has no TEFL certification. You're insulting everyone who has worked there for the past two years by saying they will, or by saying that they'll hire bad teachers at all. Whether I'd advise working there if they give you a job is another matter...

[31]

Abdul Kadir doesn`t give a toss whether someone is or is not a 4 weeker. Read their ad and look what has happened. The Interlang General DOS herself doesn`t even have a degree. Go figure.

It is a bucket shop-how can it be insulted?

[bron]

He may not give a toss but that general DOS you're insulting does, and I should think her experience of well over a decade in the TEFL world -- and the Istanbul TEFL world at that -- is worth about a thousand times more than some piece of paper a person can get after floating through four years drinking beer, partying, and spending ten nights a year cramming before final exams. I have a lot of respect for her and I will not countenance her being talked about in this fashion.

I presently don't care if you insult Interlang and I didn't say you were. I said you are insulting those of us who worked there. Myself included.

[31]

Over a decade of experience in the Istanbul TEFL world:

Something you can get without a degree or 4 week piece of paper and by floating through over a decade of drinking beer, partying and spending your time doing the locals.

[dmb]

i have to back up Bron here. I have known the general DOS of Interlang for quite a while, she was one of the first teachers i met here. She is highly professional, hard working and tries to look out for her teachers. She is also an excellent teacher trainer. She doesn't have a degree, so what. My BA is in in history and Psychology what relevance does that have in the TEFL world. She has the Dip and is a Dip tutor, surely that experience is more relevant that a BA.

[31]

She didn`t do a very good job considering what has happened. But perhaps she transferred just in time?

[dmb]

Too often DOSs get the blame when there is nothing they can do about it. Very often the DOS knows the score and knows what to do, however the owners of schools are reluctant to spend a few kurus. Stop blaming DOSs for bad things. Rememeber that DOSs started of as teachers and are on the teachers' side.

[31]

DOSes sometimes become DOSes to get out of the classroom. It is not their fault is a tiresome old line. Given hitch hike jack`s post do you think it is fair for the Interlang General DOS to recruit fresh meat without telling them that they will probably be ripped off their bonus, be evicted with 4 hours notice and have no recourse? Being illegal and all the other crap things aside. Are you saying that a DOS should do whatever they are told no matter how wrong and illegal it is? Where would you draw the line? Fair enough you left the crime-is that what you think the Interland General DOS should do? DOSes are not always on the teacher`s side. An entrailicus generalisation

[dmb]

[31]

What a surprise that your friend was paid in full. How does he account for not being ripped off like all those others? I suppose he has nothing but praise for the students, the school, Abdul Kadir and the canteen boys.