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[evaforsure]

SIWA the company that owns and operates the 21st Centruy Schools has just been through a shake up and has been through management changes because the operation has been poorly run. Their Business Program, in which students go to England, has been through 5 teachers in the last term. some of the complants have been late payment, firing without reason, and improper completion of paperwork leading to costly fixes with the PBS. Most FTs never meet management and the hme office is located away from the work units so there is little time to get understandings resolved. The biggest problem is when something doesnt work out they just close the program and move on to another school...the next school will be Qinghua University...

[Roger]

Just out of curiosity: are you one of their "vctims"?
You have an excellent chance now to put "misinformed ROger" - as you labelled me in that other threwad - in my station.

[evaforsure]

Not sure what you mean, Mr Roger.
I have expressed an opinion about your information. That is all and you are welcome to do the same. I have put out this information as a warning and little more. Accept it or reject it, matters little to me.

[Roger]

...,and I politely asked you whether you are talking in your cpacity as an insider or "victim', or whether you are doing someone else's job.

[evaforsure]

and I politely asked you "what does this matter"
I have given out information that is easily verified.

[Roger]

Well, to me it does matter whether you are merely bad-mouthing a school you happen to hate for reasons you alone know. Not every wrinkle in your face was caused by unscrupulous Chinese school operators; sometimes those FTs are just as unscrupulous. Want any examples?
Oh well - nobody is interested in this thread anyway... is this a monologue by you to the masses that don't come, and which has now turned into a dialogue between you and me?

[tw]

[evaforsure]

Bad mouthing, well Mr. Roger you have a lot of experience "bad mouthing" subjects you have little knowledge of.
If you are so worried about me misrepresenting the facts..do us all a favor and check it out. Come on Roger buddy, here is your chance to really add something to a post that is real and helpful. And how does a company that has "86ed" a program inspire you to post a remender of "unscrupulous" FTs. You are a piece of work...but thank you for keeping this process of notification , alive.

[Roger]

Eva dear, how are you?
What is, in your opinion, my experience in "bad-mouthing" subjects? I am honestly curious about what you have got to say.
And, you have still not declared your stake in the above-mentioned case; is it humiliating for you to say you never worked there?

What does "86ed" mean?

Please, dear Eva, don't adopt this condescending attitude! You know my first name is NOT a surname! Peace, paz, pax, Friede and Shalom,
Roger

[cujobytes]

Evaforsure is sure dodging the issue here. I'd also like to know the extent of your association with this organization Eva.

[evaforsure]

Cujobuddy, there is no dodging here. I issued a warning so that any that are applying for jobs with SIWA be aware of the problem that led to 5 diffrent FTs being employed by their program. And before you launch into some tirade, Roger, two were on F visas and two were on Z and no it didnt seem to matter at all in the way they were treated. I have never posted anything other than a warning about this organization but you can find other postings, if your interest is really "infofrmation" and not some under informed over achiever who likes to pry into the post for some flaw to "point out" how superior you are. Roger ..get over yourself and leave the honest poster alone to say what they want without trying to turn every warning or post into a "grand inquisition". Now pay careful attention to what I posted and what I didnt post. There is nothing in my post to susject that anyone has not been paid or that anyone was let go..although one was. There was no mention of anyone leaving because of disaorganization..although three have. That makes four. Have you got a clue now.

[Roger]

No, Eva dear, I am still clueless. This is not an inquisition at all. This is a dialogue between adults - or so I thought when I was posting my first reply.

BUt you have chosen the path of confrontation. And that of dodging. I am still wondering why on Earth you started this thread in the first place.
Since you have chosen to be snide and aloof, I have revisited most of your former submissions to this forum and have come up with a number of "flaws" (your language).

You once intimated you were from "the States". No beef with you there.
But on another occasion you hinted you were "an English" person.

Then there was a post in which you identified yourself as a 'Chinese" person - at least physiognomically, not necessarily in terms of nationality.

I leave out the occasional sarcasm in posts of yore though in the present thread you are continuing in this vein for no obvious reasons.

What's your agenda then, "Eva"?
I also note there is no one here that seems to know the institution you are trying to blacklist. And you haven't supplied vital details either. The game is still open, lady, and if you want to win it you had better put all your cards on the table NOW!
Otherwise you might be losing your own, at this moment: intact, reputation!

[brsmith15]

Kids,

Go to your rooms!

[evaforsure]

Do you really want to know about me that much Rog...pm me, but only if you can handle it. Come on Rog, lets see if you can handle one on one as well.
Occasional sarcasm, really, can't beleave that now. Well you are the expert in that, oh, I forgot, you are the expert on all things. Rog you would not beleave how many posters have contacted me to say they were sorry that you behave in this way and that I should ingnore you, but I think that what this thread has turned into is another confontation issued by Rog for the sake of arguement. Rog, pay attention now. This is not a contest and you are not the self appointed protector of all things Chinese. It is no wonder that some posters have started their own board to "get rid" of harrasment of over zealous frustrated "old hands". You want to question my nationality, why dont you be honest about your own, instead of puffing yourself up to throw threats at anyone who tries to discover the origins of one so pompus. Your one for the books Rog. Hey here is a tip for you. I post on other boards also, so why don't you put some real effort into it and look for all my post on any given topic. Then you can spend your valuble time trying to sort out everything I have said. That should keep you busy and out of eveyones hair for a while.

[Roger]

Ah, Eva ma cherie, I have heard about that sand pit of a "forum" and who are the regulars, the primii inter pares there. Why post on two websites if one alone suits you?