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Can a friend be a sponsor - and how?

 
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DerbyJohn



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Can a friend be a sponsor - and how? Reply with quote

Hi all

Q. about working visas: I don't think this particular angle has been covered before. Smile

I'm planning to be in Tokyo around mid-August and to start seriously job-hunting then.

I shall be staying with an English accountant friend who has a flat in Tokyo and is currently part-way through a three-year contract. Is this friend eligible to sponsor me for a work visa? I know it's normally a (prospective) employer who does this, but without securing work in advance, would the authorities accept my English friend as a sponsor? The reason I ask is because, when I enter as a tourist, I know that Customs will check for a return date for a holiday visa. (I was thinking of entering on a single ticket (cheaper)).

If this is possible, is it practicable or him to do this? Maybe I can send him papers so that he can get the Cert of Eligibility for me, but if I don't have it with me on arrival, I'll still be entering as a tourist who should have a return flight date.

Thanks for any input.

John
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Can a friend be a sponsor - and how? Reply with quote

DerbyJohn wrote:
HI shall be staying with an English accountant friend who has a flat in Tokyo and is currently part-way through a three-year contract. Is this friend eligible to sponsor me for a work visa? I know it's normally a (prospective) employer who does this, but without securing work in advance, would the authorities accept my English friend as a sponsor? The reason I ask is because, when I enter as a tourist, I know that Customs will check for a return date for a holiday visa. (I was thinking of entering on a single ticket (cheaper)).
John


Non-Japanese nationals can be sponsors of a work visa but they must also meet the criteria for sponsoring someone, and immigration is within its rights to refuse to allow him to sponsor you. Everything is case by case but some of the determining factors:

1. long term resident with permanent resident status or spouse visa
(someone on a three year contract I assume is not PR-status)
2. Financially stable and self-sufficient and of sound character.
3. In event you can not pay, be able to afford return passage to your home country and be legally responsible for any bills you owe such as medical etc.
4. Normally a sponsor will guarantee you can earn a minimum monthly income such that you can support yourself, but Im not sure how this works with a person who is not your employer.
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ionix-



Joined: 25 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You friend won't be able to sponsor you. Look at the different categories of visa. You don't qualify for the work visa since your friend is not an established company for 3 or 5 years and doesn't employ Japanese nationals. As for the other types of visa, you are not his dependent. So it will be impossible for you to sponsor you even though he might be very rich. The fact is that you must fit in a category of visa to get one issued to you. Getting a work visa from a friend is just not possible.
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spidey



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered sponsoring yourself? I'm not sure of the criteria involved but I do know that it can be done sometimes.

Here is a website that is full of information.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/

Good luck

S
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spidey wrote:
Have you considered sponsoring yourself? I'm not sure of the criteria involved but I do know that it can be done sometimes.


You can not sponsor yourself if you are coming into the country for the first time and have no job. Self-sponsorship is not something you can apply for at an embassy, but you can apply after you have had at least a one year visa. You must be able to prove you have sufficient independent income (about 250,000 yen a month) from one or several employers, including from teaching privates. My undertstanding is you need to show bank records, invoices, receipts to show you have regular income coming in via a bank account for the previous 6 months.
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DerbyJohn



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice. I think, what with my short timescale and all, I'll leave the friend sponsorship thing and enter as a tourist.

Could I just ask for a few personal experiences here? When you arrive at the airport, how likely is it that you're checked for a return ticket? If very likely (and I've heard that Customs are pretty serious about it), then I suppose all I can do is buy a return ticket with the return booked for within 90 days or so and then change the date (at a cost) to be at the end of my employer's contract (if and when I get one!).

Thanks
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DerbyJohn



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. I searched for 'return ticket' and found this thread - http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=24286&highlight=return+ticket - but it's not too conclusive. Any more experiences?

I should also mention that I'll be staying at an English friend's flat in Tokyo, so would it be sufficient to enter Japan on a one-way ticket but provide his address?
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ionix-



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would not. You need your return ticket when entering on a 90 days tourist status of residence. The reason behind that is that you don't have a guarantor who will pay the return ticket if you are out of money.
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DerbyJohn



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for that, Ionix-

Smile
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DerbyJohn wrote:
Cheers for that, Ionix-

Smile


Why not buy a ticket that goes on to Korea? That portion wold be cheap if you cnacel. Or perhaps buy a refundable return ticket if the travel agent will allow it.
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DerbyJohn



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Gordon. I'll look into that and let you know how I get on (might be useful for others).
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lajzar



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless your friend is also going to be your employer, he cannot sponsor you for a work visa of any kind.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you eligible for a Working Holiday Visa? If so you don't need a sponser and can legally work (p/t), while finding a company to sponser you for a work visa.
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DerbyJohn



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I'm 37 years old. As far as I'm aware, the cutoff for the WHV is 30.

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