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DerbyJohn
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: Can a friend be a sponsor - and how? |
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Hi all
Q. about working visas: I don't think this particular angle has been covered before.
I'm planning to be in Tokyo around mid-August and to start seriously job-hunting then.
I shall be staying with an English accountant friend who has a flat in Tokyo and is currently part-way through a three-year contract. Is this friend eligible to sponsor me for a work visa? I know it's normally a (prospective) employer who does this, but without securing work in advance, would the authorities accept my English friend as a sponsor? The reason I ask is because, when I enter as a tourist, I know that Customs will check for a return date for a holiday visa. (I was thinking of entering on a single ticket (cheaper)).
If this is possible, is it practicable or him to do this? Maybe I can send him papers so that he can get the Cert of Eligibility for me, but if I don't have it with me on arrival, I'll still be entering as a tourist who should have a return flight date.
Thanks for any input.
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Can a friend be a sponsor - and how? |
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DerbyJohn wrote: |
HI shall be staying with an English accountant friend who has a flat in Tokyo and is currently part-way through a three-year contract. Is this friend eligible to sponsor me for a work visa? I know it's normally a (prospective) employer who does this, but without securing work in advance, would the authorities accept my English friend as a sponsor? The reason I ask is because, when I enter as a tourist, I know that Customs will check for a return date for a holiday visa. (I was thinking of entering on a single ticket (cheaper)).
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Non-Japanese nationals can be sponsors of a work visa but they must also meet the criteria for sponsoring someone, and immigration is within its rights to refuse to allow him to sponsor you. Everything is case by case but some of the determining factors:
1. long term resident with permanent resident status or spouse visa
(someone on a three year contract I assume is not PR-status)
2. Financially stable and self-sufficient and of sound character.
3. In event you can not pay, be able to afford return passage to your home country and be legally responsible for any bills you owe such as medical etc.
4. Normally a sponsor will guarantee you can earn a minimum monthly income such that you can support yourself, but Im not sure how this works with a person who is not your employer. |
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ionix-
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 37 Location: Miyakonojo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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You friend won't be able to sponsor you. Look at the different categories of visa. You don't qualify for the work visa since your friend is not an established company for 3 or 5 years and doesn't employ Japanese nationals. As for the other types of visa, you are not his dependent. So it will be impossible for you to sponsor you even though he might be very rich. The fact is that you must fit in a category of visa to get one issued to you. Getting a work visa from a friend is just not possible. |
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spidey
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 382 Location: Web-slinging over Japan...
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Have you considered sponsoring yourself? I'm not sure of the criteria involved but I do know that it can be done sometimes.
Here is a website that is full of information.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/
Good luck
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:45 am Post subject: |
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spidey wrote: |
Have you considered sponsoring yourself? I'm not sure of the criteria involved but I do know that it can be done sometimes.
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You can not sponsor yourself if you are coming into the country for the first time and have no job. Self-sponsorship is not something you can apply for at an embassy, but you can apply after you have had at least a one year visa. You must be able to prove you have sufficient independent income (about 250,000 yen a month) from one or several employers, including from teaching privates. My undertstanding is you need to show bank records, invoices, receipts to show you have regular income coming in via a bank account for the previous 6 months. |
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DerbyJohn
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice. I think, what with my short timescale and all, I'll leave the friend sponsorship thing and enter as a tourist.
Could I just ask for a few personal experiences here? When you arrive at the airport, how likely is it that you're checked for a return ticket? If very likely (and I've heard that Customs are pretty serious about it), then I suppose all I can do is buy a return ticket with the return booked for within 90 days or so and then change the date (at a cost) to be at the end of my employer's contract (if and when I get one!).
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DerbyJohn
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: |
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P.S. I searched for 'return ticket' and found this thread - http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=24286&highlight=return+ticket - but it's not too conclusive. Any more experiences?
I should also mention that I'll be staying at an English friend's flat in Tokyo, so would it be sufficient to enter Japan on a one-way ticket but provide his address? |
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ionix-
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 37 Location: Miyakonojo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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It would not. You need your return ticket when entering on a 90 days tourist status of residence. The reason behind that is that you don't have a guarantor who will pay the return ticket if you are out of money. |
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DerbyJohn
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Cheers for that, Ionix-
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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DerbyJohn wrote: |
Cheers for that, Ionix-
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Why not buy a ticket that goes on to Korea? That portion wold be cheap if you cnacel. Or perhaps buy a refundable return ticket if the travel agent will allow it. |
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DerbyJohn
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers Gordon. I'll look into that and let you know how I get on (might be useful for others). |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Unless your friend is also going to be your employer, he cannot sponsor you for a work visa of any kind. |
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stillnosheep

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Are you eligible for a Working Holiday Visa? If so you don't need a sponser and can legally work (p/t), while finding a company to sponser you for a work visa. |
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DerbyJohn
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 25 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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No, I'm 37 years old. As far as I'm aware, the cutoff for the WHV is 30.
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