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ellethecat
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 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: working Visa regulations? |
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I have a question about the regular working visa. Is there not a requirement that English must be your first language or that you had all english schooling for 12 years, or something. My company has been hiring people... well.. whos first language is not english. Im wondering in case I need to use it against them. Also, I have a friend in canada who is fluent in English but raised Russian. He went to Yale, but even so, his english schooling was less than I thought is required.
Any info that anyone can provide? |
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guest of Japan
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Stop yourself right there. If they can get a visa, it doesn't matter. Your attempts to try to beat the company in any games like you are contemplating will not take you very far.
As for your friend, if he/she has a canadian passport and doesn't speak with an accent, there will be no problems. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:18 am Post subject: Re: working Visa regulations? |
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| ellethecat wrote: |
I have a question about the regular working visa. Is there not a requirement that English must be your first language or that you had all english schooling for 12 years, or something. My company has been hiring people... well.. whos first language is not english. Im wondering in case I need to use it against them. Also, I have a friend in canada who is fluent in English but raised Russian. He went to Yale, but even so, his english schooling was less than I thought is required.
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For an employer to sponsor a work visa you need to have a (e.g. 4 year US, Canadian) university degree if you are teaching your native language and that includes native French and German teachers. It doesnt say you have to be a native speaker but it then says if you are teaching a language other than your first language, you need 12 years of education taught in that language, including university.
If he has a degree he can be hired to teach Russian as his main language and English part time. If he has a Russian passport (or is he a US citizen?) he can get a work visa to "teach" Russian, no problem. Second, he may not even need a sponsored work visa, if he has a spouse visa or a valid visa to work in Japan. |
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ellethecat
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| guest of Japan wrote: |
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| Im wondering in case I need to use it against them. |
Stop yourself right there. If they can get a visa, it doesn't matter. Your attempts to try to beat the company in any games like you are contemplating will not take you very far.
As for your friend, if he/she has a canadian passport and doesn't speak with an accent, there will be no problems. |
I see. I thought that the company has to check out the qualifications.
Certainly, I know my company has treated people better when they have been threatened. It sucks but its the truth.
My friend does have an accent, but it might pass as british. He is a brilliant linguist, speaks english better than most native speakers, but may not meet technical requirements. |
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ellethecat
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: Re: working Visa regulations? |
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I have a question about the regular working visa. Is there not a requirement that English must be your first language or that you had all english schooling for 12 years, or something. My company has been hiring people... well.. whos first language is not english. Im wondering in case I need to use it against them. Also, I have a friend in canada who is fluent in English but raised Russian. He went to Yale, but even so, his english schooling was less than I thought is required.
Any info that anyone can provide? |
For an employer to sponsor a work visa you need to have a (e.g. 4 year US, Canadian) university degree if you are teaching your native language and that includes native French and German teachers. It doesnt say you have to be a native speaker but it then says if you are teaching a language other than your first language, you need 12 years of education taught in that language, including university.
If he has a degree he can be hired to teach Russian as his main language and English part time. If he has a Russian passport (or is he a US citizen?) he can get a work visa to "teach" Russian, no problem. Second, he may not even need a sponsored work visa, if he has a spouse visa or a valid visa to work in Japan. |
Thats a good idea. I wonder if anyone would hire him to teach russian. Do they need russian in Japan? Hes not a spousal visa kind of guy.
He will be a canadian citizen. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:27 am Post subject: Re: working Visa regulations? |
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Thats a good idea. I wonder if anyone would hire him to teach russian. Do they need russian in Japan? Hes not a spousal visa kind of guy.
He will be a canadian citizen. |
No they dont but all they have to do is tell immigration he is teaching Russian and then get him teaching English part time. When I was at NOVA there were Germans and Swedes teaching English as well as their native languages and they had "foreign" accents. Some schools offer other languages than English but they are obviously not as much in demand as English.
If he has a Canadian passport he is to all intents and purposes a native speaker in the eyes of immigration. They dont do tests of your accent and how well you speak English when processing your work visa. |
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ellethecat
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: Re: working Visa regulations? |
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Thats a good idea. I wonder if anyone would hire him to teach russian. Do they need russian in Japan? Hes not a spousal visa kind of guy.
He will be a canadian citizen. |
No they dont but all they have to do is tell immigration he is teaching Russian and then get him teaching English part time. When I was at NOVA there were Germans and Swedes teaching English as well as their native languages and they had "foreign" accents. Some schools offer other languages than English but they are obviously not as much in demand as English.
If he has a Canadian passport he is to all intents and purposes a native speaker in the eyes of immigration. They dont do tests of your accent and how well you speak English when processing your work visa. |
Okay. thanks for the info. I thought it might be a major big deal that my company was hiring non natives, then I started thinking about my friend.
Hell have his citizenship in 6 months. |
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