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malcoml
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 215 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: Japan 'bought Solomons whaling votes' |
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Monday July 18, 08:59 PM
Japan 'bought Solomons whaling votes'
Former senior Solomon Islands officials have claimed Japan paid fees and fisheries costs for years in exchange for the country's vote for a return to commercial whaling.
The ABC's Four Corners program quoted Solomons officials as saying Japan expected nothing in return for the aid assistance other than a pro-whaling vote at the International Whaling Commission (IWC).
The Solomons had earlier promised Australia it would vote against Japan's contentious scientific whaling proposals and to abstain from a vote for commercial whaling at the IWC.
But the Solomons IWC delegate ultimately reneged on its promise and voted for a resumption of commercial whaling at the IWC meeting at Ulsan, Korea, earlier this month.
Japan has been persistently accused for years by environmental groups, among others, of using aid to sign up small countries to the IWC and ensure their votes.
But the accusations have been hard to prove and Japan has denied the charge.
Japan failed to win enough support at the IWC but has vowed to continue its contentious so-called scientific whaling.
Two former Solomons IWC commissioners told Four Corners that Japan paid for all costs associated with IWC meetings for years.
"Yes, the Japanese pay the government subscriptions. They support the delegations to the meetings, in terms of meeting air fares and per diem (daily costs)," former Solomon Islands IWC Commissioner Albert Wata told the program.
He said Japan wanted the Solomons government to support its position on the IWC.
Fisheries Minister Nelson Kile, who led the Solomons IWC delegation for the past three years, told the program the Japanese paid the Solomons membership fees, amounting to tens of thousands of dollars over years.
"Yes they do (pay the fees). I'm not really sure but probably for 10 years I think," Mr Kile told the program.
The program said that just two days after Australian Environment Minister Ian Campbell visited the Solomons and was assured of its vote for Australia's anti-whaling stance, Solomons Prime Minister Sir Allan Kemakeza did a backflip.
He wrote a letter to the Japanese embassy in Honiara saying he would now support Japan's proposal for scientific whaling, according to Tione Bugotu, the permanent secretary of the Solomons' Fisheries Department.
"What I am aware of is that the prime minister has actually made very clear to the Embassy of Japan that the Solomon Islands will continue to support a reasonable number of whales to be killed for the purpose of scientific research," Mr Bugotu was quoted as saying.
While declining to comment directly on the bribery claims, a spokeswoman for Senator Campbell said Australia would continue to push for a permanent ban on commercial and scientific whaling, using "sensible, diplomatic means".
"Australia is working with core pro-conservation nations on a long term strategy to achieve our goal and protect whales for future generations," the spokeswoman said.
"We realise that this task will get harder, not easier, in the lead up to the next IWC meeting in St Kitts in 2006."
But Labor accused the government of being asleep at the wheel for nine years while Japan stacked the IWC.
Opposition environment spokesman Anthony Albanese said the government must act immediately to take Japan to the International Court of Justice.
Japan has announced that this summer its whaling boats will double their scientific kill of minke whales to more than 935 and include 50 humpback and fin whales. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| What does this have to do with language teaching and living in Japan? Whats your point by posting here? We get this stuff in the newspaper every day. |
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malcoml
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 215 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sure there are a number of people who care for world conservation, even teaching in Japan. |
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SEndrigo
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 437
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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hahaha, don't worry Paul, he's just trying to stir up trouble again....I wonder if he's ever had a positive thing to say about Japan? or all just doom and gloom?
Japan must be terrible for its whaling...but not Australia, with its poor treatment of Aboriginals and locking up foreigners.
Japan is one big cesspool of immorality isn't it ! |
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JezzaYouBeauty!!

Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 86
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious Malcolm.....what is it?....I may have forgotten your history...or maybe you never said it. But why the anti-japan?
Anyhow....you kind of restore balance to the universe kind of thing. We need you, Malcolm baby! Go baby yeah!!
Yeah....whales doesn't seem to have much to do with ESL. But.....directly....a LOT of things in this forum doesn't have anything to do with ESL. Probably most.
I dunno.....I'm Australian. I've seen the 'bad treatment of aboriginals and locking up of foreigners' ammunition against Australia a bit on this forum.....
Anyhow........Malcolm is part of the 'plethora' of people in this world, especially the east asian region, who has trouble trusting and/or liking Japan.
I hated the anti-japan stuff in Korea........but sometimes I think, where there's smoke, there's fire. Even like with our racism discussions about Japan. We probably wouldn't be having them if it didn't exist in a fairly.....plentiful, insipid....and prominent way. (ahh...just thinking of adjectives, ya know)
You know what I mean. There's a reason why a lot of people have trouble with Japan. Maybe wrong or right, but it is there. Worth a good discussion.....
Nonetheless, Japan is a very unique and interesting country.....with an indiginous people....who sort of seem...to have been....never even heard of by most of the world, and forgotten by many Japanese. The Ainu.
I showed.....a Japanese person I know.....a picture of Ainu people last week. Before that, they had never seen the Ainu people, picture or anything. A bit of a worry methinks. Off-topic!...sorry...see ya....just saying stuff. |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to threadjack here.... (But only because this post itself is a forum-jack).
Paul: Seeing the general propensity towards non-teaching-related topics, not that there's necessarily anything evil about that, what are the chances of setting up a new Japan Off-Topic forum here on Dave's?? |
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malcoml
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 215 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:08 am Post subject: |
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hahaha, don't worry Paul, he's just trying to stir up trouble again....I wonder if he's ever had a positive thing to say about Japan? or all just doom and gloom?
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A good thing to say, hmmm. YES sushi, I like sushi, have a ten dollar a day sushi habit, but ofcourse the euro sushi shop is far bettee than the traditional Japanese crap. As the Japanese employees say, we make it for the Australian taste bud. Hear that those for the critically correct bunch, they are claiming there is some type of difference in taste buds, I'll leave that for you guys to police.
I also like the Gaijin bars for obvious reasons and the Chikan take out service for a little treat.
JezzaYouBeauty!!
Hello Jezza, it is correct I attept to restore some balance, someone needs to clean up the vast majority of choclate noses that frequent this board. And it is just this particular board.
My history:
Australian
3 years military (Infantry)
Uni Property Economics
Real Estate/ Finance Japanese specialist
Master of Financial Planning
Had honesty thought about doing offshore planning or perhapes some english teaching but now strongly decided against it.
Oh and also slightly green conservationist. Well mainly just very anti whale killing.
Yes I have met a Japanese indegenious person aswell. They were from a particular island, I remember he said many peopel came to his island to die from affects of the Hiroshma bomb. He told me when his wifes parents met him they instantly rejected him and from that point wanted nothing to do with either of them. Hence the reason they ended up in Australia, living a peaceful normal life.
JimDunlop2
That would be great, lets see a Japan offtopic board, as most of the conversation is offtopic. I mean really people can only ask so many times what is the salary at Nova and how much does toothpaste cost before the topics will start to become non-teaching.
PaulH
As for having a go at me about a non teaching topic you were the one that had posted for sometime a topic in regards to asking Japanese girls for a date, yeah that had plenty to do with normal teacher behaviour.
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:11 am Post subject: |
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In many ways the whaling issue is no more or less relevant than the 'racism' brouhaha, (malcomtent's obvious agenda aside)
I wish the Australian gov't put as much effort into other fisheries related issues. |
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