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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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chola,
In which countries are there hairdressers who need and want to improve their English skills so that they can serve English-speaking customers?
In English-speaking countries such as the UK, Australia, NZ and the U.S.? In what cities? Do the hairdressers need English instruction? Of what sort?
In countries where English is not the native language? Where are the hairdressers' English-speaking customers from, and how many such customers are there? Do the customers speak only English, or do they speak the local language?
After you decide the location and linguistic context/needs, you can then begin thinking about how to attract students. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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That would depend on what you build, I guess.
Honestly, the problem I think you'll see where hairdressing is concerned is that it's a pretty monolingual field in most countries. As most people cut/style the locals' hair, they don't need a lot of English to do it. One idea might be to market yourself directly to salons located in or near tourist hotels and areas, but I suspect that while this might be an interesting sideline, in most places it would be unlikely to develop into full time work.
Where theatre is concerned, again, it depends on whether or not they need it- where are you exactly, or where would you like to be?
Regards,
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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| what about "build it and they'll come.." |
You mean like EuroDisneyland? |
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Sheep-Goats
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 527
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| now how does a person find a job teaching ESP? i see lots of postings for general ESL jobs. But is it possible to find an ESP job from abroad, or is it the sort of job where you'll have to pay your own airfare, head to your target country, and hope to come across something when you get there? |
If you're in-country you'll see a few ads for things like that. Generally they will be part time (or part time with possible full time later) type positions -- unless you're an experienced Test Prep teacher (IELTS, TOEFL, etc) where you could possibly find full time right off the line.
A lot of long-term EFL folks who aren't qualified for universities start pegging out the ESP field of their choice (legal, medical, biomed, etc) by personally going to the companies that need that kind of stuff and giving them a nice quick presentation and leaving behind a color flyer/brochure. It'll take a few months to built that up to the point where you don't need other employment, and probably a year for you to get to the point where you're doing well by it in EFL standards, but if you make it that far you'll find that your business can easily continue to grow in the coming years instead of plateauing as is generally the case when you're working for others in this field. |
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Sheep-Goats
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 527
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: esp hairdressing etc. |
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I'm sorry. I should have clarified my qualifications. I have a degree (B.Sc.), a TEFL/TESL diploma and teaching experience in addition to the hairdressing/theatre/film skills.
Any other TESL/hairdressers out there? Any ideas about how I could find a market niche?
Thanks all for responses and info. |
You likely won't build any kind of ESP base in haridressing, theatre, or film. Just my gut feeling, as the folks in those industries don't have that much to gain by learning to speak English. 99% of a hairdresser's clients will speak the local langauge, theatre is too underfunded for you to find enough students, and those filmmakers who might actually need English will probably have an interperter hired for them by Hollywood in the first place.
Note that not everyone in ESP has a background that matches what they're teaching -- some of them just have a teaching background in it. Shady, but true. |
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poolcleaner
Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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The market for hairdressing ESL is small in Thailand but it's definitely there.
It's one of many niche markets that exist and if you could bundle them all together you make make a few baht.
I've just finished a 2 day in-house job with one of Bangkok's larger salon chains and the need for English was quite evident. Unfortunately, my knowledge of salon techniques and products isn't that crash-hot (would you believe my wife has her own salon!!) and I would have loved to have been able to call on an expert for assistance.
A well organised and flexible (and probably young, modern etc.) group of ESLers who can tap into the fast developing business sector could probably clean up in Bangkok!
The basic level of English is still at taxi driver standard and the 'Hi-so' type bosses out there are frustrated by their employee's lack of communication skills.
Top end hotels and restaurants, mainline tourist bars, upmarket stores and shops, salons, boutiques etc. are all possibilities for an intensive select English course. |
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chola

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 92 Location: the great white north
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: esp-hairdressing |
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Thanks one and all for your many replies. I'm sorry not to have responded earlier; I've just received notificaion that new responses have been posted.
Anyway.....I was thinking that since I'll be in a large Mexican city, and since i probably won't have full-time work, at least not right away, that perhaps I could eek out some kind of a small sideline at larger hotels with international salons.....where clients would be foreign english speakers. But, then again, maybe those hotels already have bilingual staff....it's just an idea/thought that, obviously, requires alot of investigation and legwork to get up and running....ditto on efl for film production/film crew../theatre.
Muchissimas gracias a todo! |
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