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Sage

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 144 Location: Iwate no inaka!
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: Where can I get a TEFL in Kansai? |
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Can anyone give me a link to a school where I can get an accredited TEFL certificate in the Kansai area? I live in Kyoto so that would be best but Osaka might be okay as well. I'd prefer to get the real thing over an online one so any direction you can give me will be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Sage
EDIT: I searched for the information I'm asking for but came up with nothing. |
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bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 367
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Where can I get a TEFL in Kansai? |
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Sage wrote: |
Can anyone give me a link to a school where I can get an accredited TEFL certificate in the Kansai area? I live in Kyoto so that would be best but Osaka might be okay as well. I'd prefer to get the real thing over an online one so any direction you can give me will be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Sage
EDIT: I searched for the information I'm asking for but came up with nothing. |
If by accredited you mean coming from an accredited University, then Temple University might offer something. Or David English House might have something.
Otherwise there are all sorts of ruddy "accredited" online courses out there. Remember, there are is not an International Accrediting body for TEFL certs. Some say CELTA is one of the closer ones to that, but I've seen cert mills that supposedly offer em.
Unless you are as well attempting to get on with a specific school that requires it, most schools/companies don't. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Where can I get a TEFL in Kansai? |
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Sage wrote: |
Can anyone give me a link to a school where I can get an accredited TEFL certificate in the Kansai area? I live in Kyoto so that would be best but Osaka might be okay as well. I'd prefer to get the real thing over an online one so any direction you can give me will be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Sage
EDIT: I searched for the information I'm asking for but came up with nothing. |
Temple to my knowledge offers a diploma in TESL but I think it may only be in the Tokyo campus. They have a Masters in TESOL and D.Ed at the osaka campus of TUJ.
Check the TUJ website http://www.tuj.ac.jp
Language resources offers CELTA in Kobe, a 12 week intensive course run on weekends.
David English House is located and based in Hiroshima but the teaching group ETJ offers workshops every few months in Kansai. Check the English teacher in Japan website. |
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Sage

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 144 Location: Iwate no inaka!
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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The job I'm thinking of applying for askes if you have a TESOL or TEFL but dosen't require it. It also makes no mention of an online one being a bad thing. However, it seems that an onsite one is better in the long run than an online one so I'd perfer to do an onsite one if possible.
I also understand about accredation but there are places that are better to go to for onsite training and places that aren't worth the money. And I don't want a PHD or a second BA - I just want the certificate. Finally, I live in Kyoto so Tokyo is out and Kobe would be a pain to get to. Is there nothing in Osaka or Kyoto, then?
Thanks again for the help,
Sage |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Sage wrote: |
The job I'm thinking of applying for askes if you have a TESOL or TEFL but dosen't require it. It also makes no mention of an online one being a bad thing. However, it seems that an onsite one is better in the long run than an online one so I'd perfer to do an onsite one if possible.
I also understand about accreditation but there are places that are better to go to for onsite training and places that aren't worth the money. And I don't want a PHD or a second BA - I just want the certificate. Finally, I live in Kyoto so Tokyo is out and Kobe would be a pain to get to. Is there nothing in Osaka or Kyoto, then?
Thanks again for the help,
Sage |
The only one I knew of in Kyoto was the CELTA course run by SIT in Kyoto but they are not accepting new applicants. So far I have heard nothing.
Online vs onsite courses is a perennial discussion. Online courses per se are not bad. I am doing a university degree by distance and communicate with my supervisor by email. You still have to do the assignments and reading whether its online or offline. Online simply means using websites and email to communicate. Online you also can not show practical application of your knowledge and it lacks interaction with other people. Many online courses do not have any teaching practicums for example. My degree is based on theory but i still have to show i have collected and analysed real data from real classrooms. Computers are simply tools to transmit and process information gathered in the real world.
I dont know of any course that issues a diploma in Osaka. Will do a search and see what I can find. |
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Sage

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 144 Location: Iwate no inaka!
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Paul.
Online is my last option but again I think the company I want to work for dosen't care if it's online or not as their application has a "Do you have TEFL (Yes / No)" button and makes no mention of online vs onsite.
I'll freely admit being abe to do it online would be about a million times easier but most people on the other boards think they are death at best.
Anyway, I look foward to anything you can come up with. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Sage wrote: |
Thanks, Paul.
Online is my last option but again I think the company I want to work for dosen't care if it's online or not as their application has a "Do you have TEFL (Yes / No)" button and makes no mention of online vs onsite.
I'll freely admit being abe to do it online would be about a million times easier but most people on the other boards think they are death at best. . |
Its such people who dont have any certification themselves, are risk averse and are quite willing to be 25-yard line coaches from the sidelines.
I can not recommend any particular courses and most (overseas) are just out to make money and suck in gullible people by telling them they cant get a job without one. You are in Japan, can get work without a TESOL cert but it would improve your skills and knowledge by doing one
Ignore the naysayers do your homework and decide whats best for your personal situation. they have nothing to lose by knocking online courses when many dont know a good one from a bad one. |
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osakajojo

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: |
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http://www.nvo.com/language_resrcs/maptolr/
Celta in Kobe. I's probably more expensive than anywhere else in the world.
Looks like it is about 300,000 yen and done over 4 months-mostly Saturdays and some Sundays. They say they are the only certified Cambridge center in Japan. |
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PAULH
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: |
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English teachers in Japan.
http://www.eltnews.com/ETJ/
PS I havent done the CELTA in Kobe I have heard people say it is the hardest thing they have ever done in their lives, its recommended you clear everything else out of your life while not working and there are a few all-nighters that you might have to do to complete the course as well. |
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PAULH
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Sage

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all.
I really just want TEFL, not CLETA. I don't want to spend $3000 and I can't go on Saturdays.
It looks like I'll have to get it online, then. I'm move forums now for asking which online program is worth it.
~Sage |
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rai
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 119 Location: Osaka
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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PAULH wrote: |
English teachers in Japan.
http://www.eltnews.com/ETJ/
PS I havent done the CELTA in Kobe I have heard people say it is the hardest thing they have ever done in their lives, its recommended you clear everything else out of your life while not working and there are a few all-nighters that you might have to do to complete the course as well. |
Whoa! The hardest thing they've done in their lives? In what way? Lotsa twenty page research papers or what? I'm applying for this next week, so I wanna know! I'm a junior high teacher with free time at work, so I assume Ican get some homework done during working hours... |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: |
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rai wrote: |
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Whoa! The hardest thing they've done in their lives? In what way? Lotsa twenty page research papers or what? I'm applying for this next week, so I wanna know! I'm a junior high teacher with free time at work, so I assume Ican get some homework done during working hours... |
LIke I said I have not done the CELTA, but having completed a masters degree in Japan, sometimes doing several evening courses at once over 3 months, I can identify with where they are coming from.
In a 3 month course you are essentially limited for time and they have a core body of instruction they have to cover. As well as working you will be spending all day Saturday (and probably Sundays as well in the classroom, a 6-7 hour day with a break for lunch (I believe the CELTA is about 120 hours or 10 hours a weekend). As well as that you will likely be given group and individual activities to do based on what you cover in the lesson, for example coming up with a lesson plan, giving a demo lesson where you will be observed and critiqued by not only trainers but also by other students.
A Masters degree tends to be more theoretical, while CELTA is hands-on, practical nuts and bolts teaching practice. I dont know if they have a 'theory' in the CELTA but it seems to be fairly well-road tested and I know in the Kyoto SIT CELTA (no longer offered) you had two fairly experienced trainers.
http://homepage.mac.com/tesolkyoto/
I dont know about the Kobe CELTA so much.
You may have a day job, but I think outside your job and the weekend courses you should forget about doing anything else such as a 'social life' as it will distract from whatever it is they ask you to do as homework and coursework. You will be working 6 or 7 days a week, you will get tired and you will be having to come up with lesson plans, doing book readings and working in groups. Personally I think it will be physically and mentally demanding on you, but the people who seem to have done it think its worth while. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:43 am Post subject: |
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(From the SIT course in Kyoto)
Selma Herzberg who had been teaching English for three years when she took the course said, "I do not know how I was even teaching without knowing everything I learned in this course. It was a very organized and efficient way to learn. The teachers were very sensitive to the needs of the participants and the classes were full of good humor and interaction. Not only was the content so rich, but also the teaching experience and group work provided us with real growth and left us with plenty of things to think about. This was the first time I�d heard of the experiential learning cycle and reflective teaching and I think education, in general, would be much richer if these ideas were used in every school."
Heather Shaughnessy, who had no experience teaching English when she took the course said this, "Following the course I got a job working for a private language institute in Boston, Massachusetts called ASPECT. I taught grammar, oral communications, writing and a listening-speaking-pronunciation course. I worked with people from all over the world. Thanks to the course, I felt well-prepared and most important, confident enough to manage a multi-level, multi-age, multi-cultural classroom. I am now working in the public school system down in Cape Cod. I work with the immigrant population. It has been the most incredible work experience I�ve ever had. A truly amazing experience made possible due to the TESOL Certificate program. I am truly grateful to have been a part of a program that has opened me up to two such incredible opportunities. Thank you very much."
Hadi Heneveld, who is currently teaching with his certficate in Thailand says the course was thorough and well-designed. He was amazed at how much he learned in such a short time.
Phayvanh Luekhamhan said "I had no idea when I signed up that the practice teaching sessions would be such an important part of the course. Not only was it tons of fun but also I was amazed to see my progression from an unsure instructor, not really understanding what I was doing, to someone who really feels comfortable teaching a language in a classroom."
Doug says " I�ve worked with governors, senators, rock stars and environmentalists of the highest intellectual and spiritual characters and certainly the TESOL Certificate (and my classmates) were easily as great and in some cases a greater pleasure to work with. I missed them before I got even halfway home."
Jan Church says, "The commitment, dedication and professionalism of the trainers was superb. I was dazzled by my observations of their lessons and learned so many things from their manner, presence, and gentle firmness that I want to carry into my own teaching."
Carolyn Sadeh, "The course was a taste of a wonderfully rich and rewarding profession. It was thought-provoking, mind-expanding and totally great. The trainers were exuberant and energetic and totally complemented one another�s gifts and strengths."
Martha Brauyn says, "I came away from the course with a confidence that I too will be a good teacher because you, the SIT Trainers, didn�t just tell me how, you showed me how. Instead of dreading critique, their gentle mamner made me WANT feedback rather than avoid it. " |
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rai
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 119 Location: Osaka
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info. I don't doubt the usefulness of the CELTA certification. I took a stab at the Master's TESOL course at Temple in Osaka, but looking down the barrel of two years of evening classes while working full-time led me to the conclusion that I'd better just go home sometime to get my Master's. Absolutely everything I learned at Temple was helpful, though, and it gave me some useful contacts in the TOEFL community. Got some useful info at JALT conference workshops, too.
Yeah, I'm up for the CELTA course. So, did you do your Master's at Temple? Or was it in another subject? |
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