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Damd



Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Japan and tattoos Reply with quote

Hiya.

It�s recently come to my attention that tattoos are pretty taboo in Japan. But how taboo are they? I have a large tiger on my right shoulder and a yin yang surrounded by the Japanese characters for �justice� �wisdom� �courage� and �willpower� on my left shoulder. While I would of course hide my tattoos while teaching a lesson or whenever I was in a professional situation, would it be prudent for me to hide them in society in general? Like� if I�m taking a shower at my local gym are people going to freak out when they see my tattoos? Or say� it�s a really hot day and I want to wear a tank top, should I worry that my tattoos will offend young and old alike? And the one that�s really weighing heavily on my mind� would seeing my tattoos be a �deal-breaker� in a romantic situation for a Japanese girl?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just come back from the shopping mall where I saw a young Japanese lady (late teens, early 20s) sporting two large tattoos that protruded from under her tank top. So, as far as general public goes, I think you would be safe, although expect stares.

Where you would run into problems would be public baths or hot spring resorts. If you look Asian, they might suspect you are connected to the yakuza. If you don't, they still might hold it against you. Don't really know, but be prepared.

Society in Japan is changing, along with hair color, body piercings, and tattoos.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got back from the beach.. I saw MANY Japanese people with tattoos. As Glenski said, just don't try getting into an onsen (hot spring). Some allow it, but many do not. The signs out front will usually tell you.

Just make sure that your tattoo actually says "justice, wisdom, courage, willpower" and NOT "crazy diarrhea" http://www.hanzismatter.com/2005/02/crazy-diarrhea-legend-continues.html

OR "My abusive husband pimps me out" http://www.hanzismatter.com/2004/12/abusive-husband-pimps-me-out.html

Other than that... Don't worry about it. Wink
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stillnosheep



Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: tattoos are taboo, boo hoo, tattoos are taboo Reply with quote

No, No. Don't believe them. They're setting you up for a hit.

Tattoos are taboo in Japan for the simple reason that public display of a tattoo is taken as a direct challenege to those sporting 'opposing' body decoration. A little like walking into an Angels' bar wearing Outlaw colours or vice-versa.

And right now the "�justice� �wisdom� �courage� and �willpower�" just don't cut it. At the moment the "'injustice' 'ignorance' 'cowardice' and 'what the hell is that word that means the opposite or willpower? Who gives a monkeys anyaway? I can't be bothered to think about it any more'" are in the ascendency. Displaying your tatts in a public place is liable to get you shot.

And stay away from women. All women. They are all secret agents of the "'injustice' 'ignorance' 'cowardice' and 'what the hell is that word that means the opposite or willpower? Who gives a monkeys anyway? I can't be bothered to think about it any more'" waiting only to stick a knife between your ribs. All of them! All of them I tell you!
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AndyH



Joined: 30 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damd,
I assume you aren't in Japan yet. Where will you be? If you are headed to Tokyo, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Tats are far less accepted here than in Europe or North America, but with the young crowds in Shibuya and Shinjuku, they're pretty hip. If you want to join a health club, however, you'll have some difficulty.
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markle



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Japanese friend that intends to become an apprentice tatooist. Then again Tada always was a bit of a rebel.
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Bozo Yoroshiku



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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Location: the Chocolate Side of the Force

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyH wrote:
If you want to join a health club, however, you'll have some difficulty.

I've got 7 tats, but have never had a problem at any health club or onsen. Of course, they won't exactly confuse me and my tats with yakuza... unless Taz, Cavin and Hobbs, Superman, and Spider-Man have become hip yakuza designs these days.


--boz
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AndyH



Joined: 30 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you, Boz! I guess I'm lucky I don't have any (I was in the tattoo artist's chair once, when I was 20 years old, about to get "US Marine Corps, Death Before Dishonor" with a skull w/ bloody knife in its mouth, before my buddy pulled me out and told me I was too drunk to get a tattoo), because the sports clubs near where I live won't allow them. A co-worker of mine even had to show health club staff his bare arms, shoulders, and legs before they'd let him join.
Do you live in a large urban area like Tokyo, Boz? I'd guess that they're probably more places that allow them there.
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Bozo Yoroshiku



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyH wrote:
Do you live in a large urban area like Tokyo, Boz? I'd guess that they're probably more places that allow them there.

I live in Seoul, but have traveled often and fairly extensively around Japan over the years, both small towns and large cities. Sure, there have been some bathhouses (most notably in Hakata, Niigata, and Chiba) that have had signs that say "no tats", but no one has called me on it yet (a couple curious stares at Spidey, but that's about it).

I don't recall any places in Korea with similar kinds of rules on tats, but I'm sure they must exist.


--boz
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AndyH



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