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Chris420
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: How to survive in Taiwan without a degree |
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Hello. Newbie here. I'm trying to figure out a way to survive in Taiwan with no degree. From what I hear so far, people just fly in on a tourist visa and do a visa run every 2 months. Is there a way around having to do that, such as upgrading to some sort resident visa that will last a while? Also, which cities are best for an illegal teacher to work in? And how do you avoid getting caught? Also, I thought about going to Bangkok to get a fake degree off Khao San road. How well do those work? Any tips on surviving without a degree would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Chris420
p.s. Can people with a criminal record get into Taiwan? (I'm not the one with a criminal record). |
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junkmail
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| This is a public forum that is probably read by immigration. Don't expect too many responses, particularly to the last question. Anyway, it would probably depend on the nature of the crime. |
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Ki
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 475
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| I have heard a rumour that some people attend language classes on a student visa. I would envisage that one could do this for a couple of years before the authorities started getting too suspicious. Getting caught working illegally could land you with deportation. Getting caught with a fake degree could land you in a little more trouble. |
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junkmail
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Nicely put Ki, I should take lessons in subtlety from you.  |
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jamesallan
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| Bloke I met in a pub said an Agency can get you fake Degree and therefore ARC.... |
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Do not get a fake degree. SSETT can assist you in getting an ROC accepted degree in one year that will allow you to work with the sanction of the occupational Government on Taiwan.
[email protected]
Having fraudulent documents is a crime and very easy to prove, should your employer decide not to pay you.
Get a Multiple Entry Tourist Visa for business purposes.
It will allow you to enter and leave Taiwan unharassed for a minimum of one year and can be extended for study or changed into an ARC with the least amount of hassle.
A little preperation can go a long way.
Multiple Entry Tourist Visa
Don't worry about immigration reading this, they are not stupid enough to risk offending a local gangster's (business person) cash cow.
Real business people are always looking for an excuse not to come to Taiwan and getting hassled by the Taiwan visa office is a great one that can cost a some ignorant bureaucrat their career and a whole lot more.
You can find work without a degree. Tell a perspective employer that you have one and it is in the mail. Telling lies of this nature is totally acceptable in Taiwanese society.
Your biggest problem is the same as everyone on Taiwan regardless of education, that is finding a good paying job. Taiwan's economy has been in decline for a better part of a decade and doesn't look to be getting any better. Wages are in decline island wide and inflation is rising.
The subsequent decrease in the standard of living is inevitable and barring a miracle or a major policy shift on the part of the corrupt, incompetent and racist occupational government...
Good luck!
A.
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junkmail
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Aristotle, I think you're making some dangerous assumptions about immigration there mate. This is exactly what caused trouble for people in Korea.
Whilst it's good of you to advise the guy, perhaps a PM next time? |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Chris I suggest that you re-evaluate your decision to come here. If you are committed to coming to Taiwan then I am sure that no one can stop you, but please be aware that you will be working illegally regardless of whether you have a fake degree or not.
If you are not set on Taiwan as a destination then I would suggest that you seek out a country that does not require a degree to be an English teacher.
As has been suggested here already, working without a degree is likely to get you a fine and deportation if you are caught. Working on a fake degree is likely to get you a period of incarceration, followed up by a fine and deportation.
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| Do not get a fake degree. SSETT can assist you in getting an ROC accepted degree in one year that will allow you to work with the sanction of the occupational Government on Taiwan. |
Degrees through online degree mills are not accepted by the government of Taiwan. Shell out for one if you want, but don't complain if it turns out to be a waste of money.
Also, you should bear in mind that th job market here is more competitive than ever. There are plenty of teachers with degrees available to take positions that come available, so you are likely to find it quite difficult to secure a job.
Finally, if you do secure a job illegally, then you will be working for an employer who is willing to hire outside the law. You can probably expect that such an employer is not likely to comply with the law as it pertains to actually paying you for the work you do. |
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Serious_Fun

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1171 Location: terra incognita
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I kant bee-leev that wee spent so much time and ener-gee on our ed-you-kay-shun...
Once again, an informed response by Clark G. ! |
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Girl Scout

Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 525 Location: Inbetween worlds
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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