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shatov



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Liaoning province Reply with quote

Is anybody here in living in Liaoning province?

I'd just like comments on the province. What is good about living there and what is bad.
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latefordinner



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few of us. I've been in Dalian a few years, and like it. Or rather, it suits me most of the time. Search for the Dalian Sucks thread in the OT forum; YMMV! Much depends on which cities you're interested in. DL is one thing, Shenyang is another, and then there are the other cities.
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shatov



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been offered a postion in Fushun. The same course had a job at a university in Dalian advertised, but unfortunately that job got filled. Dalian does look very nice, from what I've seen.

Fushun is just next door to Shenshang, I think. Do you know what Shenshang is like?
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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shatov wrote:
I've been offered a postion in Fushun. The same course had a job at a university in Dalian advertised, but unfortunately that job got filled. Dalian does look very nice, from what I've seen.

Fushun is just next door to Shenshang, I think. Do you know what Shenshang is like?


It's Shenyang, not Shenshang.

Shenyang is heavily pupulated and also much dirtier than Dalian is. Fushun apparently is even worse, being a heavy industry city with a lot of coal mines. So the pollution is quite bad, even though I've never been there myself but have had students from that city.

Being in northern Liaoning, winters can be quite unbearable for you if you come from somewhere that doesn't have sub-zero winters.


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shatov



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm... yes, I really should try to remember the correct names for the places that I might go to.....

The pollution problem is something that all the websites, obviously, have missed out about the area. On the other hand, isn't pretty much all of China covered in pollution? I know that Japan is covered in all of China's pollution.

The cold shouldn't worry me too much, I hope. But are the buildings adequately heated and/or insulated, in your experiance?

I found that winters in the south of Japan were bad because the house had no proper heating, but when I went to Hokkaido for a week in February it was in many ways more comfortable that south Japan, because the buildings were much better heated. I'm hoping that the north of China is similar....
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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shatov wrote:
The cold shouldn't worry me too much, I hope. But are the buildings adequately heated and/or insulated, in your experiance?


Chinese apartments all have central heating using radiators. Sometimes the apartments get so warm you have to leave a window open -- in winter time.
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shatov



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is reassuring to know. My apartment in Japan had huge glass windows to let out lots of heat, and just one kerosene heater and an airconditioner/heater. Putting on my coat to got to the toilet wasn't very nice.

One of the previous FTs I've been put in touch with has talked about the pollution and dirty as well.

How are the transport links with the rest of China? Reliable in winter? None of the "leaves on the line", or the "wrong type of snow" excuses that we get in the UK, I hope.
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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shatov wrote:
How are the transport links with the rest of China? Reliable in winter? None of the "leaves on the line", or the "wrong type of snow" excuses that we get in the UK, I hope.


Shenyang has an international airport. Trains are the long distance travel mode of choice in China.
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Midlothian Mapleheart



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edited to remove offensive content.

Middy


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clarrie



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read that north of Yellow River as opposed to North of YAngtse River. What line it actually takes is not clear, but ...

Northern/north-eastern winters are much more bearable than southern winters. One of the reasons is the heating, but the other is the open-door/window mentality of southern Chinese. In an effort to convince southern Chinese they really don't need heating in winter I'm sure 'they' promote the idea that warm, stuffy air is bad for you and it's best to throw open windows and doors to stay healthy. Oh yeah, right, and that's why most southern Chinese spend most winters sniffling, sneezing and coughing!
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