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carolinagirl · Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 6

I haven't seen anything posted on Yakup International. Has anyone had experience with them. Please clue me in if you can-thanks

Sandgropers · Joined: 05 Jun 2003 Posts: 39

If you click on the "search" icon at the top of the page,then type in Yakup,you'll find some comments re: these people, mostly unfavourable !!
Good luck
Cheers

carolinagirl · Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 6

thank you!!!

canadiangirl14 · Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

It's quite odd how everyone seems to say Yakup is terrible because its a recruitment agency, yet I haven't heard anything bad from anyone who has actually taken a job from them. I on the other hand have been to a different website ans seen very favourable comments about the company. I was offered a job from them, and I really think I just might take it. As my father always says, every job has its own peticular "scam" but you have to try new things and give it a go. Very Happy

arioch36 · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589

Which website where you on that you heard favourable things? I have a friend on the teflchina site who says the same (bad) things.

On this site there have been posts, even on the most recent thread shortly before this one from someone who worked through them. That is pretty first hand to me.

Have heard many bad first hand reports. Have never seen a good first hand report from someone who actually worked through them.

Again, where did you see the favourable post.

Come back here next semester and tell us how your experience was

canadiangirl14 · Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

Have you found a favourable school on here yet? All these people are real downers! I don't have the exact site I saw the favourable comments on (yes i will find it and give it to you, because you seem like a cynic who won't believe that I found something good about Yakup). Honestly, I'm prepared for things to get rough, I've heard bad things about schools in every country, you just have to know how to have patience and good negotiating skills. I'm willing to give anyone a try. After all, a job is a job. And come on, we all know most ESL teachers are just going overseas to travel anyways. I even learned that in my TESOL course.

dorum · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 35 Location: China

You should have specified in your first post that you only wanted positive replies, to save you getting angry about the negative ones!

arioch36 · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589

Why call me a cynic? I am sorry for yourcynical interpretation of my post Very Happy

I have been reading Dave's for 2 years. I have never once heard anything favourable about Yakup. Why does this make me a cynic? Come'on, you asked a question, I answered. because you don't get the answer you wanted, you'll get upset at the person who answers?

All you have to do is a search here at Dave's for Yakup. As I said on a previous thread, one good thing about Yakup is they keep the same name. Makes it easy to read the first hand negative accounts.

They are not the worst. That title belongs to ACCIF, it appears. They do seem to be bad.

So really, why ask the question if you have already decided on the answer Confused

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

The reason why old China hands are steadfastly opposed to being hired by Yakup OR ANY OTHER AGENT is because agents do strictly nothing for you.
What they do is acting as a peddlar of your services to schools that are looking for you: why can't the two meet themselves?
The answer is: many schools are so new to the game of hiring an expat that they do not know how to go about it.
They feel - but do not know! - that it involves a lot of red-tape, which to them means they do not have the RIGHT connections. Therefore, they put up with an intermediary who charges them a usurious commission.
Knowing full well that they have overpaid the agent for hiring you, the school may very well fail to live up to its contractual obligations.
WHo is going to enforce any contract signed between such a school and you since the school has not followed the prescribed path (involving the PSB)? The deal between an agent and the school is a one-off business transaction - no money returned if the goods delivered do not function as described in the catalogue!
No agent starts out as an agent - this inevitably is a spin-off of other business activities! SOmetimes it is a training centre (that gets swamped with enquiries by expat teachers, all of whom are promised paradise in China!), sometimes it is a trading company (such as Yakup!), sometimes it is a corrupt school principal (I was 'sold' to my school of the last two years by such an individual - costing my employer 10'000 RMB for the first year!).
Of course, you might hit it off well, no problems. But problems arise even when you are legal; how much worse off are you if your school has not received the official greenlight to hire expats? YOu will be working on a tourist or business visa, be housed in a filthy hovel, and be fleeced and short-changed as often as you cannot help it! Who do you want to complain to?