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ak_tesl
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: REGIONAL COLLOCATIONS |
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Everything here in the Czech Republic is "rich": its history, architecture, culture, cuisine, landscapes, art, music, traditions . . . everything except for my salary, naturally.
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moonraven
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I would think just the opposite--that a lament of bitterness could very well be caused by a life of want. That's what an impoverished African or Latin American might tell you.
Those mothers holding skeletal babies in Niger--you think they would be bitter if they had food? I don't. |
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ak_tesl
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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The thread still stands
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I'll admit it.
I had no idea what a regional collocation was,
so I found this, which might boost your replies:
collocate
verb SPECIALIZED
(of words and phrases) to be used frequently together in a way that
sounds correct to people who have spoken the language all their lives,
but might not be expected from the meaning
collocation
noun SPECIALIZED
a word or phrase which is frequently used with another word or phrase,
in a way that sounds correct to people who have spoken the language all
their lives, but might not be expected from the meaning: In the phrase 'a hard frost',
'hard' is a collocation of 'frost' and 'strong' would not sound natural.
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sigmoid
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1276
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Well, it used to be the phrase
"Amazing Thailand"
that was used to promote tourism.
Now they have
"Unseen Thailand".
People have made fun of both slogans. |
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sigmoid
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1276
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Another one that comes to mind is
Ho Chi Minh City being described as 'dynamic'.  |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Historical Istanbul. I guess you can't argue with that. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:29 am Post subject: |
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You can't if you live in Cihangir but if like most people in Istanbul you live in the suburbs you can. |
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moonraven
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Never heard of a hard frost--but a hard freeze is common usage. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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moonraven wrote: |
Never heard of a hard frost--but a hard freeze is common usage. |
Hard frost is common usage in the UK but then as a native American-are you really a native speaker? |
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moonraven
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Racism alert!!!!!!!!!
The troll questions whether Native Americans from the US are native English speakers. |
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Hector_Lector
Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 548
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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A moot point.
Similarly, are all Scottish or Welsh people (for example) native English speakers? A fair number grow up with Gaelic or Welsh as a first language. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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I must apologise. In the UK we really do know our frost and hard frost is in everyday usage. I realise that your English is excellent and knew that you were a Native American (is that still the correct term?) so I wasn't sure if you were a native speaker or not.
To conclude hard frost is the correct term for the kind of bitter frost you get in the Uk during the Autumn (Fall for you) and Winter and once again apologies for any misunderstanding. |
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31
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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The Welsh are mostly native speakers but the Scotch are a bit like the native Americans and some of them have a lot of trouble expressing themselves. They often say things like ''have went'' and it is a shame really because they do have a good education system which we pay for. |
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dmb

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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So 31 how much have YOU contributed to the Scottish Education system? |
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