| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 1797
|
 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:36 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| dmb wrote: |
|
So 31 how much have YOU contributed to the Scottish Education system? |
More than you have taken out of it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Posts: 4124
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
My favorite is "Sunny Dubai" seen in a job ad recently.
It didn't specifically target mad dogs and Englishmen but at 50C in tne summer! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
grahamb
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Posts: 1945
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: Collocation: arrogant Englishman |
|
|
Hey, 31, Scotch is a drink that dumb Anglo-Saxons adulterate with ice. The people are Scots or Scottish. Your failure to distinguish between the two shows just how little you know.
You said that "some of them have a lot of trouble expressing themselves." When was the last time you heard a Scot say "I ain't done nuffink?" Know wot I mean, guv?
As for paying the bill for Scottish education, England's balance of payments has done very nicely out of North Sea Oil for the last 30 years. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
2 over lee
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 1125
Location: www.specialbrewman.blogspot.com
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I wonder at the furore that would erupt if the adjective above was followed with any other group but perhaps the Americans. Sigh, the times we live in. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hector_Lector
Joined: 20 Apr 2004
Posts: 548
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It just has been. Anglo-Saxon does not refer to Americans. These are Sassenachs that Graham is speaking about.
If only it stopped at ice. In Spain, people frequently order good malt whisky and then fill up the glass with ice and Coca Cola. With Whisky DYC (sounds like an exotic sexual practice) I can understand it, but with a Macallan�s? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
2 over lee
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 1125
Location: www.specialbrewman.blogspot.com
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm well aware he was talking about the English the only people along with the Americans 'our times' deem it OK to be openly racist towards.
Meanwhile you're spot on about the dumb Spanish and their whiskey mixers.  And in saying so, I add a new collocation to this thread, usually reserved on this board for Americans and Anglo-Saxons.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Aramas
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
Posts: 874
Location: Slightly left of Centre
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| 2 over lee wrote: |
I'm well aware he was talking about the English the only people along with the Americans 'our times' deem it OK to be openly racist towards.
|
'Americans' and 'the English' are not races. They're cultural groups. And before anyone points out the obvious, the cheese that grows between the toes of a wino is a culture, so the term has no bearing on quality. The Scots, Welsh, Bretons and Irish are cultural groups of the Celtic and other races, not individual races. The term 'Anglo-saxon' refers to two of the Germanic tribes that invaded and occupied the Celtic lands that are now called 'England' (Angle-land). Both the US and England have racially diverse populations, so your claim is really quite peculiar.
Perhaps you mean 'critical'? Was the world 'racist' towards the nazis, imperial Japanese and Stalinists? Or were they just critical? Pointing out that a belligerent government is guilty of invading and occupying sovereign nations, and the torture and mass murder of women and children can hardly be termed 'racism'. That would require a level of newspeak and doublethink that even Orwell could not have imagined.
You would also have to include Australia and Israel on a list of world pariah states. Any criticism, or even violent retaliation aimed at the US, UK, Australia or Israel is barely a drop in the bucket when compared with the trail of bare-faced lies and body parts that they have left (and continue to leave) behind them in the middle-east.
Last edited by Aramas on Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
2 over lee
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 1125
Location: www.specialbrewman.blogspot.com
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'll take your point on the critical not racist idea, perhaps the term prejudiced is the most appropriate, although America is multicultural, one only needs to travel to Asia or indeed Latin America to know that this is not the case in the minds of third-world citizans. Indeed in countries like Chile any Anglo-Saxon is presumed to be a North American. I agree with your last paragraph Aramas, especailly when it comes to Israel.
I'm aware exactly of what an Anglo-Saxon is, I did know it was neccessary to define all parameters, exclusions, inclusions, contexts etc of the term. You've done it well, although I think you may be preaching to the educated.
I was not talking about the greater global issues flying about your mind.
Simple point> dumb Anglo Saxons, dumb Americans.......not getting much of a rise
dumb Asians
dumb Indians (could be included in the above, much like Americans and Anglo Saxons----yes not perfectly the same!)
nail down yer hatches....
The good or bad of this I'll leave to others... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
saloc
Joined: 04 Jul 2003
Posts: 102
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| 31 wrote: |
| The Welsh are mostly native speakers but the Scotch are a bit like the native Americans and some of them have a lot of trouble expressing themselves. They often say things like ''have went'' and it is a shame really because they do have a good education system which we pay for. |
And then there are those who don't know the difference between a drink and a person but feel they are in a position to point out poor use of English. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hector_Lector
Joined: 20 Apr 2004
Posts: 548
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
Whisky - water of life.
Whiskey - alcopops for dumbos. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dmb
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Posts: 8397
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
My apologies to fellow countrymen. I put a single cube of ice in a decent malt.  (one of my grandparents was English) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:39 am Post subject: The people of Scotland are "Scots" or "Scotti |
|
|
| 31 wrote: |
| The Welsh are mostly native speakers but the Scotch are a bit like the native Americans and some of them have a lot of trouble expressing themselves. They often say things like ''have went'' and it is a shame really because they do have a good education system which we pay for. |
It's also a crying shame that you don't know that the word "Scotch" refers to a DRINK! The people of Scotland are referred to as Scots and/or Scottish!
I should know - my postgraduate degree is from a Scottish university (in Glasgow, to be exact), and I studied there full-time!
(Oh, grahamb beat me to it by a matter of hours! ) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dmb
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Posts: 8397
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
so chris, I take it you have had a few half and halves in your time?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:52 am Post subject: A few wee drams! |
|
|
| dmb wrote: |
| so chris, I take it you have had a few half and halves in your time? |
I had a few wee drams myself when I and my fellow MBA students were taken round a fair number of Scottish whisky distilleries during the year that I was in southern Scotland. It was a sort of a tradition to introduce non-Scots to what should be the world's most important drink.
In fact, at our (brand-new) home (please note the emphasis on the word, "our"!), my wife and I have a few bottles of the stuff which had previously been given to her parents as gifts - and we are in Wuhan! So, Chinese love Scots whisky as well as their own Pan-Galactic Gargleblasters (homage to the late Douglas Adams). HIC! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dmb
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Posts: 8397
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| to what should be the world's most important drink. |
 WHAT? you mean it isn't? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
