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WHV to Working Visa...questions

 
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Stosskraft



Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: WHV to Working Visa...questions Reply with quote

Hello all,

Whats your knowledge about switching a WHV to Working Visa?. My school has been trying for 2 months at immigration, and every time I ask "whats going on?" they say that immigration has become much more strict. Included in my paperwork is proof of my previous work experience in Canada,Thailand and China(adding up to over 3 years), but they are saying that immigration is reluctant to be live a"contract" in China as they are too hard to verify. The school I did work for in China, no longer exists (a normal occurrence over there) and I am unable to reach anyone that I have worked with.

Now, had immigration recently tighten there rules, as I have been told by my school?

They said they may try to get a Humanitarian Visa for me? How is this different from a Working Visa?

Now that I am working Full-time on a WHV should I just keep doing what I am doing and not "wake a sleeping dog" so to speak?

Anyone else here having this difficulty?

Thanks
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: Re: WHV to Working Visa...questions Reply with quote

Stosskraft wrote:

They said they may try to get a Humanitarian Visa for me? How is this different from a Working Visa?
Thanks

There is no "Humanitarian" visa, its a Specialist in Humanities visa, which I beliieve is used for other jobs such as editors, translators and other jobs that dont directly involve teaching English. Im not sure but its either language school teachers who are on Humanities visas and JETs are on "Instructor" visa. there is no visa called "Working visa" These are simply Japanese visas (or status of stay) that allow you to work or hold a job in Japan.

You still need a degree etc but for Humanities if you have 3 years relevant work experience and no degree its possible to get a Humanities visa. With an Instructor visa you need a university degree.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/appendix1.html
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: WHV to Working Visa...questions Reply with quote

Stosskraft wrote:

Now that I am working Full-time on a WHV should I just keep doing what I am doing and not "wake a sleeping dog" so to speak?

Anyone else here having this difficulty?

Thanks


My advice would be to contact immigration because its possible your school is leading you down the garden path about getting you your visa. You get to the end of your working holiday visa, nothing happens on your work visa because of inaction and you are out of a job and have to leave the country.

See if you can find out from immigration how far along your application is, as I smell a rat and it could be your employer buying time on your application. You dont wake the sleeping dog and the dog will be shipped back to Canada when his visa runs out.
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Stosskraft



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sleeping dog I referred to, is immigration. Very Happy

I am now considering having to leave in February, anyway(when the visa expires). If I am unable to get another visa then I will leave Japan before my WHV expires. What I was concerned about is working full-time on WHV, yet technically speaking my visa is being processed (unsuccessfully) at immigration. I guess now I just have to wait and see, but it is not looking good at this point.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stosskraft wrote:
The sleeping dog I referred to, is immigration. Very Happy

I am now considering having to leave in February, anyway(when the visa expires). If I am unable to get another visa then I will leave Japan before my WHV expires. What I was concerned about is working full-time on WHV, yet technically speaking my visa is being processed (unsuccessfully) at immigration. I guess now I just have to wait and see, but it is not looking good at this point.


According to new working holiday visa rules it is possible to work full time on the WHV and they have taken away the time limits on the WHV.

That said a WHV is not the same as a full work visa, and once your time is up, thats it. Immigrations main concern is that you have enough to support yourself and my guess is people were struggling on a part time income, or it was harder to find part time jobs than before. Its not like the bubble days where there was plenty of work.

Immigration works to its own schedule and you can not rush them. They will tell you one way or another when they are ready.
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Stosskraft



Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
According to new working holiday visa rules it is possible to work full time on the WHV and they have taken away the time limits on the WHV.


Wow this is good news. I guess besides the higher taxing, I am ok to keep working full-time. On the down side, I will be leaving Japan sooner that I thought, this coming February.

Thanks Paul.[/quote]
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/programme.html#2



The MOFA website doesnt specificially forbid full time work on WHV any more, although it used to. Good news for you then.
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ajarn



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The school could well be telling the truth. At my place of work last semester, there were 4 native speaking teachers. 2 of us had to renew our existing visas while the other 2 had to change their visa status. It took the two of us who renewed our visas between 6 - 8 weeks for our new visas. Of the guys who changed their visa status, one took 4 months and the other never actually received his before the semester finished (the semester was 4 months long) and actually left for Korea without even getting it. They were fed the same story from our administration about Immigration cracking down on Visas and taking longer to process. They both called immigration (on more than one occassion) to check what was happening and were told the same thing - that their visas were in process.
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Stosskraft



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ajarn,

It seems that immigration here is just quite slow. I hope that the visa does get changed so that I can finish my contract (ending April), if not I have to leave in February and my school will have to find a replacement earlier.
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