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James Bay



Joined: 03 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Ma On Shan - Net seeking info... Reply with quote

Any NET have info on Ma On Shan area...Serviced apartments available for short time and then finding a longer term rental (Serviced apartment I guess is the best way to go...Advise from your experience...Where it is in relation to Central?What's it like there?Country side nice or what?Is it on an MTR?Is it expensive to rent? Any problem with dog/cat pet for renting?What advice does one offer on coming on a Tourist Visa,then changing over there? Is that costly?Please tell any info on obtaining visa for spouse?Thank you.
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bubblebubble



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Location: Hong Kong/Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's no MTR line to Ma On Shan. but you can take the KCR there. the transport network is quite convenient, takes about an hour (bus) to central. the fare is about $18 - $20(?) it's a developed town so don't worry. lots of schools there as it's a new highly populated area in hong kong.
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shmeagain



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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Location: Hong Kong

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hero wrote:
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in fact such approval being granted is extremely rare, if not totally unheard of. You should certainly not bank of your spouse securing an employment visa, regardless of nationality, age, qualifications, experience, or indeed any other factor


Oops - sorry, Transvaal wrote that - you see how confusing this is?

Anyway, it's not true. As your spouse will be on a dependent's visa, the usual work visa isn't applicable if she works part time (I think less than 28 hours per week).

As the checks aren't as stringent (the spouse is in effect looked after by the initial work visa holder) this process takes a week once all the necessary paperwork is submitted.

The spouse receives a letter from Immigration stating that he/she is allowed to work for XYZ company. If the spouse wants to work for ABC company as well, the process is repeated and another letter is issued by Imm. Dept. and from XYZ company stating that they are aware that the spouse wants to work for ABC company and that the hours he/she works for them don't clash.

Sounds confusing, it's not. Be careful where you get your info from.

If you need more details, PM me.
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once again



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no legal reason why someone on a dependent visa of a non permanent visa holder can not apply for a work visa. The same rules apply as apply to anyone trying to get a visa. In fact..it may be easier as that person would already be in HK..and easier to interview..etc,.
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well-travelled



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that the Immigration Department considers each case on its individual merits when it comes to offering employment visas to dependent spouses.

However, I believe the dependent wives/husbands of a few NETs have found themselves in a Catch 22 situation. Immigration will only hand out an employment visa if the spouse is already sponsored by an employer. Unfortunately, most employers will only offer a job if the prospective employee already has an employment visa!

well-travelled
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shmeagain



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hero wrote:

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If your spouse is on a dependant's visa then I would drop all idea of him/her ever securing employment � whether that be full- or part-time, at least legally


So why is it that I personally know 2 people who have had their visas approved in a week. Then again, you probably know 2000 people who have been denied by immigration, so that makes sense I guess.



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The pathetic comments above also evince just how short a time the poster has actually been in HK. No one who has been here longer than a single season would ever refer to 'part-time' work in HK. It simply does not exist



Funny, as I have 5 part-time offers in my inbox right now. As you have mentioned many times, you wouldn't go near language mills or centres offering work in schools. So where exactly DO you get your information from?
I get mine first hand.

You know, you don't have to be right all the time ZH. It's OK to let others help out when you don't know the answers.
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ozman



Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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Location: HONG KONG

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you originally asked about serviced apartments at Ma on Shan.
There is Horizon Suite - serviced apartments - the rents vary according to how long you sign up. check website:
http://www.horizonsuitehotel.com/eng/index.html

long term apartments vary in Ma On Shan. Rents have been rising. It's more expensive now with the new KCR rail link.

Expect to pay around $8,000 - $10,000 for around 800 square feet. There are lots of newish apartment blocks at Ma on Shan - rents differ.
Ma on Shan has everything you need including a good pool and new public library, but it's rather bland and antiseptic with little actual "street life". Transportation is good. You can get to TST in 35-40 mins on KCR changing at Tai Wai. Buses go all over including direct link to the airport.
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ozman



Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgot to mention cat and dog. Generally you can't have cat or dog in an apartment block.
If you're keen on a cat or dog, then consider a "village house" near Ma on Shan. There are plenty around. You could get 700sq ft village house for around $6,000 - maybe less - depends on location. Lots of villages between MOS and Sai Kung.

Re visa. I have changed over from tourist to work visa on two occasions with no problems and didn't exit/re enter HK.

Are you coming as a late-arrival NET?

Once you get your work visa, your spouse will get dependent visa at the same time, and HK ID. Your spouse can get full time employment, if they can find an employer willing to sponsor them, and then qualify for the work visa. Been there and done that - this IS possible.
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