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[koshechka]

hi, i am finally in santiago and now that i am here i can start worrying at ease and thus my worrysome question is, which schools sign contracts besides sam marsalli? also, if i get a contract with one school and want to work somewhere else, how is that not a problem. as far as i have understood most schools don't even care about contracts but since i am planning to stay here at least for 2 years if not longer, i don't really want to be going to argentina multiple times, any suggestions?
what are my next steps, i have to get some root number or something like that but do i need a contract for that?
thanks for all of you experienced people out there, your help is greatly appreciated.
koshechka

[evansmith]

Koshechka,

almost every school that is legit has contracts available and will help you get your work visa and eventually your "rut." Linguatec, Comunicorp, Curtis, the list goes on. You need to talk to them so they can get the ball rolling for you and then your "tramites" begin. But until you agree to a contract with one of the institutes, you don't have to do anything (at registro civil etc.) As far as working other places, I think most institutes allow it, but the catch 22 is that you have to keep "certain" prime blocks of hours free for them in case they want to give you a new class. Usually you can work in a couple privates here and there if you want or need to.

Hope this helps, and good luck.

Evan

[koshechka]

thanks evan, i'm going to try to get a phone tomorrow and then leave my resume everywhere it will be accepted. the school itself will take care of everything? i don't even have to go to the immigration office or something like that? i lived in mexico for two years and there it is a different process altogether. what about getting the boletos? say i get a contract with a school, something which i hope will happen, then, they will start the tramites but i am responsible for getting the boletos/rut thing. is this correct?
thanks again

koshechka

[evansmith]

The school will get everything started for you, but once they receive notice that your visa is ready, you will have to do plenty of running around and waiting in line etc. So until you get a contract, dont worry about anything else. Boletos also come later (after you get your ID card and RUT) and depending on how slow the visa comes through, this could be a while. Until then, you just have to deal with the extra tax that they hit you with on your paycheck.
Hope this helps.

Good luck,
Evan

[lauren3821]

I am currently in the process of doing all of this, but it seems it can be done without getting a contract, but perhaps with more hassle. Luckily I was able to find someone willing to write a letter expressing their desire to hire me without actually signing a contract. I�m not sure how easy that is for others. Also, I had an interview with norteamericano today, and they are another institute that will get a work visa for you.

Here�s whats needed for a temporary visa, which allows you to work for one year, and can be renewed one time. This will prevent Argentina trips, though I cant wait to make an Argentina trip for fun!

VISA TEMPORARIA: Es el permiso de residencia que habilita a su titular
a residir en el pa�s y a realizar cualquier actividad l�cita, sin
limitaciones especiales.

A. DOCUMENTACION GENERAL PARA SOLICITUDES DE VISA POR PRIMERA VEZ.
(Debe ser presentada por titulares y dependientes)

2 fotocopias del pasaporte vigente (hojas de identificaci�n, n�mero y
fechas de otorgamiento y vencimiento de �ste). No olvide que debe
exhibir el pasaporte original.

2 fotocopias de la Tarjeta de Turismo vigente. No olvide que debe
presentar el original.

2 fotograf�as, recientes, tama�o carn� (3x2 cm.), en colores, con
nombre completo y n�mero de pasaporte.

B. DOCUMENTACION ESPECIFICA PARA TITULAR
1. VISA TEMPORARIA PARA PROFESIONALES Y T�CNICOS

Copia del t�tulo debidamente legalizado.

Una oferta de trabajo, especificando funci�n y remuneraciones, firmado
ante notario. Este documento debe contener una cl�usula de vigencia
que indique que "el trabajador podr� comenzar el ejercicio de sus
funciones una vez que obtenga la visa o la autorizaci�n para trabajar
correspondiente". Original y copia.

[evansmith]

wow, I didnt know about that visa. Very useful info. I think I'll go for that one myself when I get back. With this visa, you can keep your options open for work anywhere, it seems...
Thanks

[lauren3821]

no problem, luckily someone told me before I came down. It�s a good idea to get your degree legalized before coming if you�re from the states, though. It can be done if you dont but with much more hassle and time.

[koshechka]

i've heard about this professional visa thing but since i have my original diploma with me i thought it was impossible to get, was i wrong? it seems like a good option. also, what exactly is happening with insurance and pensions? a teacher i talked to today told me that something gets deducted from each paycheck but then something gets refunded, it is blatantly obvious that i have no clue. thanks for any help
koshechka
ps. santiago is great.

[lauren3821]

From what I�ve heard getting your degree legalized here is doable, but takes longer, your original will end up having stamps on it, so thats up to you. But I think doing it from over here involves mailing it back home, if you�re from the states anyway.

As far as the money from your paycheck, i know very little too, but as far as I know a percentage is taken out and as long as you dont earn a certain amount while working here (and as teachers I dont think we can) than you get the money back at the end of the year. Thats about all i know.

p.s. i love santiago too, but i prefer the non-rainy days

[Breezee]

I actually just finished this process. If you have your degree already here in Chile you can actually take a photocopy of it, fax it to the states and your university can sign the copy and stamp it. Then it needs to be signed by a notary, then signed by the state department (in the state where you got your degree), then signed by the embassy. Then that has to be mailed to chile and legalized here. It is a pain, but definitely possible.
The most difficult part is finding a friend, or friend of a friend, who has an important enough position in a company to sign a job offer for you. Neither you nor that company is legally required to follow through with the offer. It just has to be done to show that your job is in demand here in Chile. Once all of that is sent in, in takes about 2 weeks to receive a paper in the mail stating that your visa is being processed(At that moment you will never have to do another border run).
Then it takes about one more month to actually receive that valuable piece of paper stating that you have a temporary visa for one year. (you then go to the extranjer�a and receive a visa sticker in your passport)

I hope this info. is helpful. Sorry to ramble but at least you can have some more details. Bri-

[koshechka]

what happens after the year? i am actually planning to stay here indefinetly and was hoping to get the permanent residence thing. i think one can apply to that after being here for 2 years, right? so, if i can get my diploma notorized and such would that serve for 2 years and slowly change into permanent resident status? actually, i am waiting until monday to see if i was accepted into this small university which promissed to give me a contract. if all else fails, i'll do the diploma thing. i'm afraid it would take more than 3 months anyway, so at least one trip to argentina would be necessary. does anyone know if the visa requirements are the same for mexicans? my boyfriend is mexican and we came together so now it seems that the places where he has asked for a job are telling him not to worry, that many people don't have legal papers, but that doesn't really seem like the best solution.

sunny this morning, i'm still amazed by the amount of things to be done here in santiago after having lived in puebla for 2 years and almost never having any options other than the movie theater. so, happy weekend to all of the nice people who keep this community going.
ciao

[lauren3821]

After one year you can apply once again, and after 2 you can apply for permanent residence, I believe. Someone correct me if thats wrong.

[tiolee]

DECREE LAW N� 1,094 OF 1975
Establishes regulations regarding entry into the country, residence, permanent residence, exit, re-entry, deportation and the control of aliens.



EMPLOYMENT-BASED RESIDENTS
SECTION 23 : An employment-based resident visa shall be granted to those aliens traveling to Chile in order to fulfill an employment contract.
That same visa may be granted to those aliens who are inside the country and wish to settle here in order to fulfill an employment contract.
Likewise, that same visa shall be granted to such members of their household as are determined in the Regulations.
Employment-based visas may remain valid for any period up to two years and may be extended for similar periods. If no term is mentioned in the passport, its validity shall be understood as being the maximum one.
An employment-based resident may apply for permanent residence after having resided two years in the country.
SECTION 24 : The employment contract that is submitted to obtain this visa shall contain a clause whereby the employer undertakes to pay the return fare of the worker and that of any other persons stipulated in the contract. The formalities and characteristics of the contract shall conform to those mentioned in the Regulations.
SECTION 25 : Termination of the contract that served as background for this visa shall bring about the visa�s immediate expiration and the corresponding authorities shall be notified within 15 days thereafter. However, the holder thereof shall be entitled to apply for a new visa or permanent residence, if applicable.
SECTION 26 : All entertainers, sports persons and other duly qualified aliens entering the country and wishing to undertake gainful activities might be granted an employment-based resident visa in the manner and under the conditions the Regulations determine.
III STUDENT RESIDENTS
SECTION 27 : A student visa shall be granted to any alien traveling to Chile to study in any State or private establishment recognized by the Government, or in any center or institution for higher or vocational education.
Likewise, a student visa may be granted to those aliens who, once inside the country, prove that they have enrolled in any of these establishments.
These visas shall have a maximum validity of one year and may be renewed for similar successive periods free of charge.
To obtain an extension of these visas, the alien shall establish his/her student status by submitting the corresponding enrollment and attendance certificates.
A student resident is not allowed to undertake any gainful activity inside the country, unless previously authorized to do so by the Ministry of the Interior.
SECTION 28 : A student resident with more than one year�s residence in Chile may apply for any of the other visas referred to in this Decree Law.
An alien who holds a student visa may apply for permanent residence when his/her studies have been completed.
IV TEMPORARY RESIDENTS
SECTION 29 : A temporary resident visa shall be granted to any alien whose aim is to settle in Chile, provided he can certify having family links or interests in the country and that his/her residence is deemed as useful or advantageous. This visa shall be extended to any members of his/her household.
This visa may also be granted to former residents who have lived at least one year in the country and who had held at least a permanent resident permit which has lapsed, in accordance with Section 43.
SECTION 30 : A temporary resident visa shall have a maximum validity of one year and may be extended once only for the same period. If no validity is mentioned in the corresponding passport, its validity shall be understood as being the maximum one.
SECTION 31 : Holders of a temporary resident visa who reside for one year as such may apply for permanent residence; if they have resided for two years in Chile, they shall be bound to do so. Otherwise, they shall leave the country.
SECTION 32 : In order to enter Chile, any female alien, married to a Chilean citizen and who is granted a Chilean passport or is included in her husband�s passport, shall, in accordance with the provisions of the consular Regulations, be considered as a temporary resident for the purposes of this Decree Law.
SECTION 33 . Those aliens whose admittance is required by national corporate bodies or by international institutions recognized by the Government of the Republic of Chile, because of their being professionals, technicians or highly skilled persons, may be granted a temporary resident visa.


long winded i know but all legal stuff is. Should give you the picture though.

[tiolee]

the actual document is very long so I only posted parts relevant, I have the full thing translated into English from the Chilean Government website.

hilean residence and visa laws are quite lax compared to other countries I have. been in. Usual paper shuffling but if you know any well placed Chileans they can help speed it up.

I will be in Chile from Nov onwards , so if anyone who wants to reside in Chile for an extended period needs some help etc I would be willing. I am Chilean but reside in The U.K half of the year. Un Pituto is what Chileans call someone who can move things for you as opposed to standing in the line.

[koshechka]

hello,
so i didn't get a contract through the university where i almost worked since they were really sketchy and now i am back to nothing. and the option of getting a letter stating demand and all that seems very very nice. obviously i don't know of anyone who would sign it for me. tiolee, what exactly did you mean that you would help someone who is looking to reside in chile for a long period of time? i am planning to reside here indefinetly, so if you know of someone who would help me out with this letter, please write me here or send me a message. thanks