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ohdannyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:39 pm    Post subject: Recent Masters graduate needs advice Reply with quote

Hello.

I'm looking for some advice from experienced university teachers in Japan. I worked at an eikaiwa for 2 years before returning to my native england to do my MA in ELT. I now wish to return to Japan and would like some advice about the prospects for an English teacher in my position. I am currently teaching on a pre-sessional English language course at an English university, I do not have any publications to my name at the moment but hope to change that in the future. I have a basic level of Japanese conversation, I guess about level four, I reckon I am about 6 months away from level three. I will be 28 years old when I return to Japan (next month).

could anyone give my info about University job prospects, pay and conditions, and generally anything else you think I ought to be aware of.

Thank you for taking the time to read my message. Any replies would be greatlt appreciated.

Daniel
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Recent Masters graduate needs advice Reply with quote

ohdannyboy wrote:
Hello.

I'm looking for some advice from experienced university teachers in Japan. I worked at an eikaiwa for 2 years before returning to my native england to do my MA in ELT. I now wish to return to Japan and would like some advice about the prospects for an English teacher in my position. I am currently teaching on a pre-sessional English language course at an English university, I do not have any publications to my name at the moment but hope to change that in the future. I have a basic level of Japanese conversation, I guess about level four, I reckon I am about 6 months away from level three. I will be 28 years old when I return to Japan (next month).

could anyone give my info about University job prospects, pay and conditions, and generally anything else you think I ought to be aware of.

Thank you for taking the time to read my message. Any replies would be greatlt appreciated.

Daniel


Daniel


I currently work full time at a Japanese university and can tell you what I know:

Masters qualifies you for part time teaching positions and though a few have said a Masters is not needed, its considered the minimum for a majority of universities and all jobs I have seen ask for a Masters degree. Many schools are now asking for PhDs for full time jobs as well so competition for spots is getting a lot tougher. Ditto with publications. Over 50% of schools ask for publications in the ad for full time work though not really needed for part time. I would consider starting on publications as soon as possible if you are thinking of full time work eventually.

Best to try and get part time work at a couple of places and build up your experience in Japan before leaping to full time work. Japanese ability is not needed for part time as you simply going and teach classes, dont need to keep office hours or deal with office staff so much. Full time Japanese ability is recommended, the more the better. I would consider Level 2 of JLPT and appropriate and comfortable level of Japanese though some get by with less.

Pay depends on the school but you are paid according to the number of classes you teach in one time slot part time or per "koma". Monthly pay is now about 20-25,000 yen for a 90-minute class per week. Private universities pay year round but public universities only pay when you actually have classes i.e. about 30 weeks of the year. Full time you are on a salary and at your age with no Masters or publciations expect it to be quite low, 4.5 million or 5 million yen a year, depending on school.


Best way to get jobs and leads is to know and meet people, get known, join JALT, respond to job ads on various forums. Many ads are in Japanese so learning to read Japanese is a good idea- you have a good step up on the competition. Openings are very competitive in Kanto and Kansai for university jobs and usually it helps to know someone on the inside. Cold calling doesnt really work unless you are prepared to spend a lot of money on postage and CVs. Count on sending out at least 50 CVs for each job offer you get.

Schools to stay away from: some on the list below mainly deal with limited term contracts for foreigners but a few are really bad for work conditions, pay, treatment of foreign teachers etc

http://www.debito.org/blacklist.html

Here is some info for people looking for university jobs

http://www.debito.org/univquestions.html
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may also benefit from reading these articles.
http://www.eltnews.com/features/special/002a.shtml
http://www.eltnews.com/features/special/028a.shtml
http://www.eltnews.com/features/special/032a.shtml
http://www.jalt-publications.org/tlt/articles/2002/08/glick
http://www.jalt-publications.org/tlt/articles/2002/09/glick
http://www.jalt-publications.org/tlt/articles/2004/10/stapleton
http://www.jalt-publications.org/tlt/articles/2004/10/mccasland

Plus, here is some slightly old information on salaries themselves.

1997 Kansai Area Teacher Salary Scales
courtesy Michael "Rube" Redfield
Osaka University of Economics

The following is the 1997 Kansai area college teacher salary scale, complied by the Kansai Private Universities Labor Union. The three highest paying schools are listed at the top of each table, the thirty school average in the middle, and the three lowest paying colleges at the bottom. The yearly salary includes all bonuses but does not include additional sources of revenue, such as research budgets and travel allowances.
[Ed's Note: these salary scales apply to Japanese (and assumedly non-Japanese) tenured faculty.]

Table 1. These figures are for 24 year old, single instructors (joshu).
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 6,554,438
# 2 Osaka Electo-Comuni. U. 5,615,700
# 3 Otemon Gakuin U. 5,578,020
23 School Average 5,021,548
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Osaka Tech/Setsunan U. 4,597,880
# 2 Osaka Women's Gakuen JC 4,480,226
# 1 Hagoromo Junior Col. 4,131,600

Table 2. These figures are for 30 year old Assistant Professors (koushi), married, with one child.
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 8,972,452
# 2 Kansai University 7,994,490
# 3 Kinki University 7,614,510
26 School Average 7,299,799
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Osaka Women's Gakuen JC 6,690,234
# 2 Osaka College of Music 6,669,400
# 1 Osaka Chiyoda JC 5,995,466

Table 3. These figures are for 35 year old Associate Professors (jokyouju), married with two children.
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 10,472,725
# 2 Kansai University 9,737,330
# 3 Momoyama Gakuin U. 9,611,875
26 School Average 8,653,140
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Hagaromo Junior Col. 8,110,200
# 2 Osaka College of Music 7,991,760
# 1 Osaka Chiyoda JC 7,330,242

Table 4. These figures are for 40 year old Associate Professors (jokyoju), married with two children.
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 11,120,783
# 2 Kinki University 11,034,225
# 3 Momoyama Gakuin U. 11,020,240
26 School Average 10,085,578
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Baika Women's College 9,313,290
# 2 Osaka Art U/Naniwa JC 9,123,725
# 1 Osaka Choyoda JC 8,468,184

Table 5. These figures are for 45 year old full Professors (kyouju), married with two children
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 13,039,337
# 2 Kinki University 12,426,304
# 3 Osaka Seikei Junior Col. 12,288,205
26 School Average 11,476,637
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Baika Women's College 10,594,453
# 2 Shukugawa Jr. College 9,917,455
# 1 Osaka Choyoda JC 9,743,543

Table 6. These figures are for 50 year old Professors (kyouju), married with two children.
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 13,829,743
# 2 Kinki University 13,663,151
# 3 Osaka U. of Economics 13,452,500
26 School Average 12,531,313
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Osaka Art U/Naniwa JC 11,420,215
# 2 Shukugawa Jr. College 11,102,695
# 1 Osaka Choyoda JC 10,627,802

Table 7. These figures are for 55 year old Professors (kyouju), married with one dependent child.
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Kobe Gakuin University 14,329,834
# 2 Osaka Dental College 14,305,510
# 3 Kinki University 14,188,492
26 School Average 13,228,170
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Osaka Women's Gakuen JC 12,267,544
# 2 Shukugawa Jr. College 12,096,940
# 1 Osaka Choyoda JC 11,114,801

Table 8. These are the figures for 60 year old Professors (kyouju), married with no dependent children.
Salary Scale / University name / Yearly salary in Japanese yen
TOP THREE
# 1 Osaka Dental College 15,436,390
# 2 Kobe Gakuin University 14,659,482
# 3 Kinki University 14,494,508
36 School Average 13,623,467
BOTTOM THREE
# 3 Osaka U of Law&Economics 12,569,800
# 2 Osaka Women's Gakuen JC 12,547,426
# 1 Osaka Choyoda JC 11,119,715
Rube Redfield is an educator at the Osaka University
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski

do those JALT articles appear without a password? Im a member and they come up automatically sometimes. Other times I have to type one in.

This may be of interest too,

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print/news/nn12-2004/nn20041208f1.htm
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,
I'm not a member of JALT, and I can access them without a password. I think only the most recent month or two listings in The Language Teacher are not accessible unless one is a JALT member (and has a password).
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ohdannyboy



Joined: 23 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Paul - cheers Reply with quote

Paul thank you for taking the time to respond to my message. It seems like you know what your talking about and your advice is greatly appreciated. May I ask you a couple of further questions. You say that the monthly payment for teaching one Koma a week is from 20,000 . Have I understood this correctly. This means that each 90 minute Koma is payed at (20,000/4) 5000. Which equates to an hourly rate of 3600 yen ish, which is barely more than an eikaiwa. Is this the case, sorry if I give the impression for being a bit of a mercinary, I just want to know what to expect. Also, I guess bonuses are only paid to full time teachers is this the case ???

Many thanks
Daniel
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul - cheers Reply with quote

ohdannyboy wrote:
This means that each 90 minute Koma is paid at (20,000/4) 5000. Which equates to an hourly rate of 3600 yen ish, which is barely more than an eikaiwa. Is this the case, sorry if I give the impression for being a bit of a mercinary, I just want to know what to expect. Also, I guess bonuses are only paid to full time teachers is this the case ???

Many thanks
Daniel


Dont compare it to an eikaiwa as your classes are not an hour long but ninety minutes. Its not like you can quit in the middle of class. You are paid for two class hours but the lesson is actually ninety minutes or 1.5 hours in actuality. Sorry if this sounds confusing but on the contract the school will say one lesson is 2 class hours (or 8 hours a month) and you are paid accordingly.

Get out of this time clock mentality. You have 2 or three lessons a day, several days a week and thats it. Some months you will have five classes a month in one koma because of the calendar and there being 31 days, not 28. Dont sweat teaching another class some months as you have to teach all your classes during term anyway.

When I was part time I was getting 25-30,000 yen a koma so for ten classes thats 250,000-300,000 yen a month (I was teaching more like twenty some years).Part timers are paid year round so you will even get paid salary during 5 months of vacations when there are no classes. As part time you are not required to come to school during vacations unlike teachers at conversation schools who work 40-45 weeks of the year.

Part timers at national universities only get paid during term time or about 30 weeks of the year. Only full timers get bonuses. If you are full time you may get other perks such as research grants, money to attend conferences and give presentations. Subsidised housing. Free use of a school computer (on loan to you during contract). Internet access with your own line.

Nowadays its getting harder to get work from increased competition and some schools set limits on now many classes part timers can teach in one day. Mnay schools now hire dispatch teachers pay them less than teachers hired by the university so i think pay may have gone down a bit too.
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pnksweater



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ODB,

I have a masters in Education, 9 month TESOL cert, and conversational Japanese. No plublications, no doctorate, I was 23 when I applied for the job and I still got a full time position. Universities are buckling down here and everyone's feeling the pinch, but there are jobs to be had.

Most people start out part time teaching at universities and snatch a full time position when they can. However, universities place a cap on your contract. My university's five years, most are two or three years. Strangely enough, after riding out the contract many of my coworkers go back to part time. (less university BS to deal with) The cycle's a bit tough, considereing the time it takes to adjust to and find a new job. I came here to get work experience on my resume. I plan to return home ater my contract's up. People who live in Japan long term and support a family working the university catch 22 are hard core.

Paul's advice is spot on. Making contacts will be the most important thing to getting you the uni job you want.
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ohdannyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone who has responded to my message for their helpful advice. Much appreciated. Quite sobering actually, I was really excited about the prospect of returning to Japan, but the impression I get is that teachers are really feeling the pinch in Japan at the moment, both in terms of salary and the avaiability of jobs. I get the impression that it is very difficult to support a family on a teachers wage, this of course greatly puts me off returning to the land of the rising sun, but I intend to return anyway and try my best.

Thanks again
Daniel
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