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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: Need some ideas for a class of 300 Reply with quote

OK, it's not exactly a class but here's the deal; the language school we work for occasionally has us do demonstration classes for prospective new clients. The way these generally go down is as follows; we're told that we'll have a class of seniors and a class of juniors or primary..you get the idea; we show up and are told (due to the great Chinese ability to change EVERYTHING at the last minute) that we are now teaching one class but it is ALL the seniors, juniors etc.
At that point the original lesson plan goes out the window and you are left scrambling for things to do.
We did one yesterday and basically all we could come up with for a mixed audience of 300 junior middle school students, was reviewing some coloured sheets we had brought with us (they have a hard time with grey, brown, gold and silver) and 'What's this in English?" where we produce articles such as magazines, menus, flash cards of cars, trucks, pizza etc from our backpacks.

Does anybody have any experience or suggestions about how to entertain a crown of this size with an English lesson theme for up to an hour?? I'm having a really hard time coming up with anything more than what we did as I find the size of the audience really limits your options.
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amandabarrick



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you agree to do a demo for an audience of 300? It's nearly impossible for them to learn anything with a group that size. Do you have any media resources such as audio/visual equipment? What about introducing yourself and showing pictures of your hometown, doing a Q & A with the audience for 15 minutes or so...
With an audience this size it seems your school just wants to use you as marketing and show others they have a FT. The possibility of them learning anything meaningful isn't very realistic.

AB
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amandabarrick wrote:
Why would you agree to do a demo for an audience of 300? It's nearly impossible for them to learn anything with a group that size. Do you have any media resources such as audio/visual equipment? What about introducing yourself and showing pictures of your hometown, doing a Q & A with the audience for 15 minutes or so...
With an audience this size it seems your school just wants to use you as marketing and show others they have a FT. The possibility of them learning anything meaningful isn't very realistic.
AB


I agree completely, the most they probably got out of it was the chance to have their photos taken with a foreigner. We introduced some vocabulary that they didn't know (magazine, glasses, knife, fork, chopsticks, cereal etc) and pulled some kids out of the audience to write the spelling on the board. Slideshows and such are great ideas but hard to do when you have no resources.
The only 'media resource' we were given was a blackboard.

I've no doubt that the only reason we were there was to promote our language school, it's been part of our agreement since we arrived. Our goal at these 'events' is usually to get the kids enthusiasm up and teach them one or two new things with the expectation that they will sign up for lessons with our school, but usually we are in a classroom setting not on an outdoor stage in front of the whole damn school!!

I suppose what I was looking for were games or activities that can be utilised with a large group...any ideas??
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anthyp



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have heard of 50+ students per class, but 300? That's a new one!

How many of these "demonstration lessons" do you have to do, anyway? You're making it sound like there's one per week.

I'd forget about trying to get everyone involved. Ask for 20 - 30 volunteers for whatever activities / games you're supposed to be doing. The rest can watch as you lead these select few through their motions. Sucks for those left on the sidelines, but there's no way you can please everybody in such a situation! You can choose a new group of volunteers for each activity to involve as many as possible.

If it really bothers you (and you are not merely annoyed with the hassle), you should start looking for a new employer! There are plenty of folks out there who will actually respect you as a teacher, and not merely a marketing tool.
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tw



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three hundred? That's just INSANE! I don't call that a demo class. I call that a monkey show. Get them to do what they can do best and that's repetitive reciting. Ideally, what the other posters would work except I can guarantee that it won't. Ask you question? You will get dead silence. Show them pictures? Too long of a wait for the pictures to be passed from one end of the hall to the other end. You can also give them a mini lecture on things like the 8 parts of speech and typical Chinese pronunciation errors like "usually", the "v" sound vs the "w" sound, etc.

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mmm... pancakes



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Need some ideas for a class of 300 Reply with quote

yamahuh wrote:
We did one yesterday and basically all we could come up with for a mixed audience of 300 junior middle school students, was ... flash cards of cars, trucks, pizza etc


Dems some big flash cards, if 300 people could see!!

No real ideas from me, except to tell your boss to screw it and walk away. Confused
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Babala



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I have done in the past when doing a presentation and they had requested an activity is to play Tri-Bond. You know, name 3 things things and they have to tell you what they have in common (eg. spring, summer, winter...all seasons). You can make some of them very easy for the lower levels and include some tough ones for the higher level students.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How many of these "demonstration lessons" do you have to do, anyway? You're making it sound like there's one per week.


That wasn't my intention; we do them once or twice a month at the beginning and end of the semesters when the school is trying to generate new business.

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If it really bothers you (and you are not merely annoyed with the hassle), you should start looking for a new employer! There are plenty of folks out there who will actually respect you as a teacher, and not merely a marketing tool
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It doesn't really bother me in any way other than I don't believe that it gives any indication whatsoever of what my classes would be like or of my capabilities as a teacher. The marketing tool bit? I don't blame my boss for using all of the resources available to her to further her business. In her position I'd probably do the same.

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Ask you questions? You will get dead silence


Hell, I quite often get dead silence in classes of 50 let alone during demonstrations for 300. I couldn't imagine how frustrated I'd feel if I had to look at 300 people trying to pretend they were invisible.
It pisses me off enough as it is in my regular classes.

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Dems some big flash cards, if 300 people could see!!


We usually get a student or two to 'parade' them around the stage, kinda like the girls with the round #'s at boxing matches!!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite frankly, I wouldn't do it. If I knew about these demo "classes" before I took the job, then I wouldn't take it. If I found out AFTER (edit) accepting the job (edit), I'd either refuse to do them and see what happens or I'd look for another job.

I know that's not a suggestion on how to "teach" the "class", but it's the best I can do. I like the idea of tri-bond, though.


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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kev7161 wrote:
Quite frankly, I wouldn't do it..... I'd either refuse to do them and see what happens or I'd look for another job.
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Interesting, are we the only teachers who have to do these things???
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hilary



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always play hangman. Start with E X P L O I T E D.

Do they pay you overtime? Rolling Eyes
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hilary wrote:
You could always play hangman. Start with E X P L O I T E D. Do they pay you overtime? Rolling Eyes


No they don't but then again we're not working a full schedule either. I figure if we're not working more than the agreed to hours then there's room for us to do some demo classes.

Seriously though doesn't anybody else do these things? I'm not talking necessarily about 'demos' for such large audiences just any type of demo classes. I'm sure that our employer can't be the only business woman trying to use her employees to corral new business.
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Don McChesney



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you 'visually' chop the group into four quarters, to work as a team, so you are managing only a quarter of the number at one time.
Then use the board to score points. Each quarter shouts a question to the next one. Correct, they get a point. Can't answer correctly, they lose a point. Asking team to give correct answer. This works the seniors of course, but it impresses the audience with the level of their English.
Then get the seniors to sit down, get the juniors to stand and ask and answer. Of course there will be prompting and cheating, but hey, they look smart!!
It is noisy but fun. Questions can be grouped. Colours, objects, animals etc, give a directive. ' Ask for an animal beginning with A or B or Q (quokka).
This way both sides have to think, one to know before asking, to check the answer.the other to score a point.. Good luck anyway.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good idea; one I hadn't thought of for sure. Idea

Thanks for the suggestion, if we find ourselves in a similar situation again I'll definitely give that a try and let you know how it works out.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously though doesn't anybody else do these things? I'm not talking necessarily about 'demos' for such large audiences just any type of demo classes. I'm sure that our employer can't be the only business woman trying to use her employees to corral new business.


I did a similar thing while teaching at a chain school in Viet Nam but the number of people attending was about 10 - 50. The school would always ask the most experienced teachers to do this. We got paid the normal rate we were getting for regular classes and got paid even if no one showed up.

Anyway, let me say I think you're doing a good job already based on the activities that you've described.

Here's one you might try that I have used with large crowds. Divide the crowd into teams as describe above. Then write the name of a common object like an orange on the board. Use some of the pictures you've got. Then let one team shout out words describing or related to the thing like 'orange', 'sweet', 'round', 'fruit', 'cheap', whatever they can come up with. Award one point for each acceptable word or phrase. Set a time limit like two minutes. Then move on to the next team with a different word. Do this for about two or three rounds, then declare a winner. Cheers all around and everybody gets excited and feeling good.

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Quite frankly, I wouldn't do it. If I knew about these demo "classes" before I took the job, then I wouldn't take it. If I found out AFTER the class, I'd either refuse to do them and see what happens or I'd look for another job.


of course, you might give some thought to this suggestion as well. Wink
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