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[ash]

Anyone worked through Timeplan? They are currently interviewing in Australia for teachers in the UK.

Is ESL in high demand in UK schools? In schools in Edinburgh? I would think so, but the agency didn't seem to think so. How likely would it be to teach outside your subject areas? Are they really crying out for school teachers like everyone says?

[dmb]

[ash]

Ah, the magic of Dave's ESL Cafe. Such a wonderful place. Thanks DMB.

[SueH]

Bear in mind that there is a big difference between Efl schools and regular state schools where there may be a demand for ESOL expertise, but where qualification requirements are higher.

I can't comment on the individual school in Edinburgh, but recruitment difficulties are often related to the relative attractiveness of the terms offered. If the pay offered is anything like some of the schools in London then I'd stay clear. Worth investigating, but be aware what an expensive place the UK can be.

PS dmb - how much is a pint of 80/- these days?

[dmb]

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[scot47]

Probably not much change out of 4 quid for a pint of eighty shilling !

(The eighty shillings was originally the excise duty paid on a barrel of the stuff !)

As a teetotaller I do not care but this does show how expensive life in Perfidious Albion has become. Avoid it !

[ash]

Sheesh, how slow is this forum!? Can anyone give me a rough estimate of an hourly rate? anywhere? supply, contract, whatever? hello?

[dmb]

I read somewhere(it could even have been somewhere on these boards) that quite a few schools that have Head Offices down south are moving to edinburgh(due to terrorism) Is this true? If so, how would it effect the hourly rate, that we don't know, in Edinburgh?

[SueH]

Scot - had a pint of 80/- south of the Border recently for �2.50 - in Southampton as it happens - so couldn't have been much further South without getting my feet wet.

As for pay - well, if you are PGCE qualified look at the Dof Ed website for pay scales. FE colleges pay about �25 per contact hour, but fun bureaucracy and not always easy to get enough hours. Contracts usually short term as well. Private schools - no idea - but look at the job ads for London and laugh. 3/4 years ago as a raw recruit I was getting �12 an hour in Portsmouth.

Apart from that do your own research and talk straight to the horses themselves. Get Skypeout and start phoning schools in Edinburgh; sure they'd be impressed by your efforts.

Also register as a linguist with the police/immigration or Institute of Linguists (?) and you can get lucrative if occasional work as an interpreter.

[Will.]

Secondary or Primary work in ESL/EFL is found on the TES website under EAL, English as an Additional Language.

www.tesjobs.co.uk/


Most of this is taught before or after by MFL tutors who in previous lives were TEFlers. there is a considerable amount of EFL/ESL work in the private sector ...but they are already in place for this academic year.

As a qualified teacher you should try andf get work in your own field and then branch out intpo EAL in the schools if you get a long term contract...more than a week in one school.

[ash]

Alright! thank you both pounds & pounds. If I could pay you in pints, well...let me just adjust to the currency, and then shall we regroup? In southampton?

[John Hamilton]

[canadashirleyblue]

I worked for Timplan (and some of the others as well) in the Uk. My experience was that there is a teacher shortage in London in the schools that you probably wouldn't want to work in. The further you get from London the more difficult it is to get work.

I have yet to see a job advertised for EFL in state schools that doesn't require you first to be UK qualified.