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naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Does anyone have any experiences teaching there? What's the job market like for non-EU passport holders?

rogan · Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 416 Location: at home, in France

Ireland (Northern) is part of the UK and threfore ammber of the EU

Eire is also a member of the EU.

Enough said ?

grahamb · Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945

I might add (without wishing to appear sarcastic), that they also speak English there. English teachers are one of their biggest exports at the moment.

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

I was hoping that because so many English teachers are leaving, that the job market will soon open up for us non-EU cits.

rogan · Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 416 Location: at home, in France

I started to answer this post as seriously as I could.

Then I thought "Why bother? The poster isn't even the same planet as me"

I just sent a 3 page reply to some US military guy wanting to teach in France.
So I explained in great detail all the difficulties and problems.
I suggested ways that he might overcome these difficulties and find solutions.

But this is too much - a non EU citizen wanting to teach English in an English speaking EU country - it's too "yellow brick road"

"Earth calling naturegirl321 ! Come in 321 ! Time to rejoin reality !"

grahamb · Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945

I think "brick wall" would be more appropriate, Rogan. Do you sometimes feel as though you're hitting your head against one? At least you tried to help.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

You are all being very cruel and unkind. This poor girl has a perfect right to go and teach EFL in the County Offaly and County Antrim School of English.

The fact that she is not a citizen of on e of the countries in the EU is an irrelevance. She is nice and you are being horrid and monstrous. You are VERY cruel.

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SueH · Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy

Um... what about County Kerry....If not, would it be easy to get a job teaching English in Boston or somewhere like that. Would I be entitled to a green card?

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Ok, I get the point. No need to be cruel and unkind, It seems that for now it's close to non-EU citizens. I'm not going to give up hope though. In 2004, there will be 10 other countries for Irish and Britons to teach in. Maybe the job market will change then. Who knows.
Thanks for you answers, even though they weren't the nicest.

grahamb · Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945

The EU is indeed closed to non-EU citizens, and its expansion will simply make it even more difficult for you to work here legally.
If you have a grandparent from an EU country, you may qualify for a passport. If not... well, you've heard it before.
You could try Turkey - I doubt that its application for entry to the EU will be accepted in the foreseeable future.
As has been said by other contributors, there are countries where the general level of English is high and the market for foreign English teachers is therefore very restricted. Read the comments about places such as Switzerland and Holland.

ceola77 · Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Posts: 6

Nature Girl- don't pay any attention to these people- their attempted irony is entirely unfounded- i'm irish, teaching on a summer course in dublin and there are 2 americans, and australian and a guy from nigeria teaching in the same school. teaching in ireland is not 'closed' for non-EU citizens, especially not during the summer. in fact, the summer is probably the best time to come over because you have a better chance of being kept on by the company come september.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Are your non-EU colleagues legal ? Have upyou asked them about their work permits ? It would not be the first time an unscrupulous employer overlooked the need for documentation.

And incidentally do not expect to be welcomed with open arms by your Irish colleagues. they will see you as competition in the job market - which for EFL teachers is already pretty poor. You might make more money pulling pints in Dvy Byrne's than in teaching on a summer school.

ceola77 · Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Posts: 6

hmmmm, maybe you haven't experienced esl teaching in dublin this summer in ireland. all my non- national colleagues have permits and i have received 4 calls in the last week looking for teachers. a particular school in the city centre is 'desperate' for teachers, so if anyone fancies starting next monday or the following monday, as long as they have a degree and a relsa cert then feel free to leave a message.
also, the atmosphere in the staffroom is one of cameradery, certainly not jealousy or begrudgery, as you would like to imagine.

ceola77 · Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Posts: 6

i should have specified that the 4 calls i got were from schools in dublin and galway, so jobs are still available