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Aramas · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:23 am Post subject:

I'm curious as to just exactly which of my concerns can be considered to be 'hardcore left-wing' or naive.

Is it my objection to the mass murder of women and children? The incarceration of refugees? The dismantling and privatisation of our health, education and welfare systems? Hyper-regulation of everything? Shoot-to-kill policing? Am I perhaps deluded, and none of those things have actually happened?

In what way does a sensible, moderate realist view such things? Do they even have a view, or do they just count their money while quietly mumbling "I'm alright, Jack"? Are you certain that you're not viewing a sensible, moderate realist position from a hardcore, right-wing, naive perspective? Feel free to enlighten me Confused

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:47 am Post subject:

wildnfree · Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 134

Aramas,

I actually agree with you on just about every point you made (apart from detaining illegals - people will always abuse the system and the detaining should be used to determine genuine refugees from faKers). What especially concerns me is how people in the industrialized West are being duped by their governments - sending jobs overseas, tightening social security, cutting on public services - while these people believe they are in the best countries in the world. At least in the poor latin and Asian countries, they Know they are being duped. It is just I havent found any place in the world that doesnt screw its people.

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Interesting about what you said about renouncing citizenship. my mom had to do that when years ago, she became an American. She thought that she renounced Romanina cit, but according to Romanian laws. A person born a Romanian citizen, can never renounce their citizenship

Aramas · Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:58 am Post subject:

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

Finland? Norway? Quiet people. Prosperous. Good-looking.

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:15 am Post subject:

Aramas · Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:41 am Post subject:

lol - We would also have to hope that the prison we ended up in has internet access so that we can keep casting our smug, middle-class, utopian pearls into the endless vacuum of quasi-intellectual space Smile

Anyway, it snows in Norway! I've developed a taste for the tropics. In my Utopia, the coconut palms sway gently over white sandy beaches, crystal clear waters, dirt-cheap bungalows and cheaper bars (and...well, you know,..girls and stuff). It pisses me off no end that a lot of places in South America are actually more expensive than the local tropical islands here in North Queensland. For $15USD a night I can stay in a beachfront bungalow on Magnetic Island, complete with coconut palms, balmy tropical sea, open beach bars and full moon parties (and a chopper to airlift out the overly enthusiastic party-goers). I can't understand why it costs more in countries in which incomes are less than a tenth of what they are here.

Just for a laugh, there are a bunch of people who are trying to start their own 'country' on floating ocean communities. Personally I can't imagine my lungs surviving the inhalation of enough dope smoke to buy into it, but at least it's entertaining. Check out http://www.seastead.org/. I wonder if they bothered to visit the floating villages of Lago Titicaca, or whether they believe that their leet injuneering skillz will stand them in better stead. I mean what's several centuries of experience against an engineering degree from MIT?

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject:

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

I know for Peru, we don't have work visas. Many places get teachers voluteer non-immigrant visas. So I'm not sure if you spent two years here you would automatically get citizenship.

RyanS · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 356

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Your school has to get it for you.
After far as Ecuador goes, I would say contact Justin Trullinger and he could tell you about it.
But with my experiece in Peru, you will have to go through a lot of red tape.

MixtecaMike · Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 643 Location: Guatebad

Aramas · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:34 am Post subject:

Maggie is an amazing place, isn't it. 20 minutes on a ferry and 20 years back in time.

I doubt that you could find a block of land on Maggie for under $100kAUD these days Sad

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Anyone know if it-s true that in order to get Peruvian citizenship, you have to give up your original citizenship?