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homersimpson
Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 569 Location: Kagoshima
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| One of the reasons I preferred living in Japan is precisely because Japanese people leave you alone and don't bother you. |
Yeah, if you live in a big city. Try living in the countryside and dealing with the Garbage Nazis every time you take out your trash.  |
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Perpetual Traveller

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 651 Location: In the Kak, Japan
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Try ...dealing with the Garbage Nazis every time you take out your trash.  |
Well who knew this was a universal thing, I thought it was just something that happened in France!
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japancube
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:02 am Post subject: Korean's vs' Japanese |
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| I don't know if making comparisions between two very different cultures makes any sense at all. I have visited Korea in the past and have taught in Japan, yes they are different. Maybe it's a better idea to look at the cultures for what they are and not at what their not. |
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Bozo Yoroshiku

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 139 Location: the Chocolate Side of the Force
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| homersimpson wrote: |
Try ...dealing with the Garbage Nazis every time you take out your trash.  |
Well who knew this was a universal thing, I thought it was just something that happened in France! |
And Korea for that matter. Although they're a little late to the international Garbage Nazi rally, they're making up for lost time.
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Bozo Yoroshiku

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 139 Location: the Chocolate Side of the Force
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans seem to put up with the display of negative emotions whereas in Tokyo you are supposed to repress negative feelings.
Repressing is not so good, and leads a lot of guys to drink too much. |
If Koreans express negative feelings more openly, and repressing things leads one to drink heavily, I just have to wonder what exactly is it that Koreans are repressing to make them into a Superpower of binge drinkers and alcoholics.
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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don`t know why Koreans drink a lot, but in Japan I think people like to escape or drink as a way of relaxing after too much work, etc.
It is for coping, but it is not healthy.
Korea and Japan both have the strong sempai/kohai system, and yes the stereotype is that Koreans are emotional, but I bet there is repression going on in Korea. Koreans work a lot and they live in a rigid system where if you are a junior in a company, you can get yelled at but you can`t criticize your boss.
In Japan the same is true, except if you go out drinking, then you can yell and complain, because you were drunk. |
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sushi
Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| What is a "garbage nazi"? |
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guangho

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 476 Location: in transit
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| A little old lady who tears the trashbag from your grip, rips it open, pours the contents on the ground and proceeds to pick through it, seperating the glass, the plastic, second-hand clothes (which are recycled into green containers, boxer shorts included), paper and food, yelling at you all the while. You learn to start taking out the trash at 3 am. |
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homersimpson
Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 569 Location: Kagoshima
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| A little old lady who tears the trashbag from your grip, rips it open, pours the contents on the ground and proceeds to pick through it, seperating the glass, the plastic, second-hand clothes (which are recycled into green containers, boxer shorts included), paper and food, yelling at you all the while. You learn to start taking out the trash at 3 am. |
Holy High Seas! I've met my Doppleganger! Yep, except that said old bat is pointing out how you've improperly sorted your trash while 75 bags are "sorted" EXACTLY like yours!  |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| A little old lady who tears the trashbag from your grip, rips it open, pours the contents on the ground and proceeds to pick through it, seperating the glass, the plastic, second-hand clothes (which are recycled into green containers, boxer shorts included), paper and food, yelling at you all the while. You learn to start taking out the trash at 3 am. |
Ha! Are you kidding me? That's getting off easy! The garbage nazis around here will go through your trash, find stuff that makes the bag traceable back to your dwelling, and return the garbage back to you, on your front doorstep, with a nasty little hand-scribbled note in Japanese advising you to do it right this time....
Didn't happen to me -- but to a friend of mine... Just about laughed my cajones off! |
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Birdog3344
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Osaka, Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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You mean she actually makes you recycle your trash? What a b*tch!  |
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Perpetual Traveller

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 651 Location: In the Kak, Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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The ones in France use a set square to ensure that your bin is at right angle to the curb and a ruler to make sure that it is at the prescribed distance from the bin next to it...
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homersimpson
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| You mean she actually makes you recycle your trash? What a b*tch! |
Your (sarcastic) point being what? Most of the trash generated in Japan comes from big cities, yet in those big cities most people make no effort to sort (and if they do it's only between recyclables and trash). As someone who has lived in both big cities and in rural Japan, I can tell you there is nothing more annoying than having to buy special city-name-emblazoned bags, having only one Sunday a month to "dispose" of your recyclables, properly sorting your trash and trying to play by the rules, only to learn that no one else seems to be doing it, yet these old women have the balls to lecture the foreign scumbag who doesn't. I guess you see nothing illogical about some old hag saying you can't put plastics with newspapers while standing next to a hundred bags that have exactly the same contents. (rhetorical, hence no question mark)  |
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Birdog3344
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Osaka, Japan
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I may be mistaken, but I didn't read mention of "having to buy special city-name-emblazoned bags" and even so, i don't see any problem with paying a small fee to help recycle trash. I do, however see something illogical about playing victim when one isn't playing by the rules and properly sorting their trash and then expressing indignation at an "old hag" who shows you how to do it right, politely or not. Seems to me most know exactly what they should be doing and are in no position to blame or get angry at others for pointing out their mistakes. Why else would one have to take out their garbage at 3 am? (If one is in fact recycling properly and is still getting lectured, that's another story). Moreover, who's to say what she says or does to other Japanese neighbors just because no one else "seems" to be doing it? Why so quick to blame it on racism? (Honestly curious, hence question marks included)  |
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JezzaYouBeauty!!

Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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This is a funny little thread. I don't really know the rules, but are we actually all hijacking this thread all over the place, away from the original topic?
I don't care, but maybe the 'Don't hijack thread, moderator nazis' might shut it down.......
Anyhow, no, I am not angry at birddog or homersimpson or moderators. I'm just like what Indiana Jones said - , 'Nazis, I hate these guys'
But there's the interesting thing....................Why don't we say, 'The Japanese Imperial Army garbage people'?
Or as in that famous seinfeld episode about the soup nazi, why don't we say, 'The Japanese Imperial Army soup person.'
Woops....that's right....we've forgotten the Asian Holocaust, as the Japanese and their Education Ministry have also forgotten, of course.
Here's a link anyway, for old times sake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Holocaust
And so I'm not a complete thread hijacker, and to sort of go back to the original topic, I think that the 'Asian holocaust' has something to do with it. Why are there so many disturbing events in Korea??
Well, a fairly intelligent dude who had been in korea a long time, once told me that Korea is like an abused child.....And there's definately a few countries I know of, that have to owe up to that.
And sadly, one of those countries still hasn't learnt. It's power structure and government anyway. |
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