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gazzby
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 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: Has anyone heard of W5 Staff Services? |
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| I would like to know if anyone has worked for or knows about W5 Staff Services located in Aichi prefecture. Any info you can give would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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japancube
Joined: 30 Jul 2005
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: W5 |
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| I don't personally have any information about them but it seems they advertise on Gaijinpot. They are a recruiting firm for japanese schools searching for English teachers and curriculum directors. Here's their website http://www.w5ss.com/ or their Nagoya location [email protected] they may help if you can read Japanese. Good luck, cube |
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Big John Stud
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I was offered a job by them, but I had to turn them down, because I couldn't break my contract with my present employer. I also think if I just left in the middle of the term many kids would be hurt.
I hope to get a job with them next year. Anyway if you do go work for them let us know how it turns out. I think they are a good company! |
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Kimura
Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Location: Toronto, ON
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| I had an interview with them. Unfortunately, the only thing I can say about them is bad. After my interview they sent me an email asking me if I would eat lunch with the students and clean the school with them. I replied saying I would be happy to eat and clean the school with the students. But my only condition is that I can't eat pork. Without the courtesy of a phone call the replied telling me I was not a good fit for the job. Sorry but this is all the information I can give on the company. Good luck |
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bearcat
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Gaijinpot has had numerous threads about them in the past. They are a temp staffing agency that does dispatch gigs. My advice: unless you're are desperate for work and not qualified to get better, you should save yourself alot of grief and avoid em. |
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hip-hop boy78
Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Kimura,
Did they want to hire you as a teacher or a cleaner?!  I would have flatly refused to do any cleaning. |
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Big John Stud
Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| bearcat wrote: |
| Gaijinpot has had numerous threads about them in the past. They are a temp staffing agency that does dispatch gigs. My advice: unless you're are desperate for work and not qualified to get better, you should save yourself alot of grief and avoid em. |
Why do you think bad about 5W? I know Gaijinpot screan the threads so no one can write negative comments about a company even if the company is corrupt!
Some people are against dispatching companies even if the company operates honestly. I've heard bad things about Interact, USCOM but haven't heard anything negative about 5W Staff Service. |
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craven
Joined: 17 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Hip-hop boy, anyone working in a public school does cleaning, and most eat with the kids...in the public schools, the kids and teachers eat and clean together, so it's their way of including you. It's a good thing, not a bad thing.
Since they order their lunches from a large catering company they can't accomodate dietary differences (it took me a MONTH to convince teachers that I realy couldn't drink milk...and it STILL comes to my table every day). That being said, the dispatch was way out of line in denying a teaching job based on dietary concerns. Sounds like you have grounds for an official complaint if the job's worth that much to you. |
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JimDunlop2
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| hip-hop boy78 wrote: |
Kimura,
Did they want to hire you as a teacher or a cleaner?! I would have flatly refused to do any cleaning. |
Normally I would agree with you.... But cleaning the school is a group activity that all teachers and students participate in every day after lunch. It's something that's done from grade 1 all the way to grade 12. If you flatly refuse to take part in this, then you may as well write yourself off as a teacher in the Japanese school system. Just because they ask you if you WILL do it, doesn't mean you will actually be required to. That's up to each individual school.
Schools in Japan, unlike their North American counterparts, do not hire professional janitorial staff. Which means, everyone helps out. It's really no big deal. Just grap a map or broom, dirty rag or whatever, and chat with the students. They'll love you for taking pary and helping make their cleaning time more enjoyable, plus you come off as a team player because the teachers all do it too (except the principal, usually).
Other schools don't care whether you help out or not -- some may even insist that you don't, because they are treating you as a guest or visitor. It's their pleasure to dote on you and serve you with tea, biscuits and extend every courtesy to you.
On the OTHER hand, if it's an eikaiwa or business, I think that they should stick that mop straight up their wazoo and hire someone to do that crap -- because indeed, you've been hired as a teacher and not a cleaner. Again, this is common to Japanese businesses, but in an eikaiwa it's twisted! The students never have to do anything, and they just watch you and snicker as they see you vacuum the entrance way... That's just plain wrong. |
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bearcat
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Big John Stud
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Anyway, I would deeply appreciate any information about 5W Staff Service.
I edited this post because JimDunlop2 makes sense. And at least with davesesl we job hunters have a better chance on this website of being warned. Guijin.pot is only concern with protecting its customers even if they operate illegally!
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JimDunlop2
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Careful, y'all... Treading on thin ice. Please remember that just like GP, Dave also accepts advertising money from schools that may have a bad reputation among ex-employees.
Dave has also made it clear to the forum mods that threads containing negative info about schools are subject to removal. Seems that he keeps getting threatened with lawsuits.... Can't say I blame him, I wouldn't want to be him (nor would I want to see his e-mail INBOX either)...
Anyway, my personal feelings about this are moot. But to prevent this thread from getting removed, I'd recommend exchanging info (like the links that Bearcat provided) via. PM or e-mail only...
Thanks,
JD |
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japancube
Joined: 30 Jul 2005
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: Lawsuits?? |
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| I'm not sure that this is the correct forum for this. There has been quite a bit of talk about lawsuits lately and I'm wondering how it's possible for an education company to sue a website? Considering that many of the threads, i.e. "the blacklist" are based on fact. It seemed to me that the mods took great efforts to maintain an objective view for the stickies. In doing so avoided slander, which would make dave's liable. Also, how can they physically take him to court? thank you since many are oceans apart. Cube |
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Doglover
Joined: 14 Dec 2004
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Location: Kansai
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Lawsuits?? |
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| japancube wrote: |
| I'm not sure that this is the correct forum for this. There has been quite a bit of talk about lawsuits lately and I'm wondering how it's possible for an education company to sue a website? Considering that many of the threads, i.e. "the blacklist" are based on fact. It seemed to me that the mods took great efforts to maintain an objective view for the stickies. In doing so avoided slander, which would make dave's liable. Also, how can they physically take him to court? thank you since many are oceans apart. Cube |
Behind a website are people, who have their own online businesses, publishing companies, schools, internet servers.
People who want to file a lawsuit will take action Or threaten to take action) against an administrator or an operator who becomes personally liable for what is posted on his website, whether its true or not.
Litigants dont care whether someone is being objective or not, they just paint a big target on them. |
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JimDunlop2
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Lawsuits?? |
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| japancube wrote: |
| I'm wondering how it's possible for an education company to sue a website?....... ......Also, how can they physically take him to court? since many are oceans apart......... |
Not necessarily oceans apart. Many schools may have offices in the United States. Dave is physically located in California. It's not inconceivable that someone could file in a court in that state.
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| Considering that many of the threads, i.e. "the blacklist" are based on fact. |
Yes, "facts" according to whom? Usually, as it was relayed to others by the ex-employees. As far as a court of law is concerned, there is truth, and then there is The Truth. The "unbiased facts" on the blacklist may be good enough for Joe Jobseeker for avoiding a particular school, but the burden would be on Dave's to defend itself against claims of libel. Whether Dave could or couldn't defend himself and his website against such a lawsuit is irrelevant -- the legal fees alone would likely be enough to shut him down.
Again, if someone asks a question about the reputation of a certain school, here on Dave's, you may be best off to PM or e-mail that person directly with what you know or any relevant links to what the story may be. |
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