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Heba



Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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Location: Vancouver, BC

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: What Should I do?! Reply with quote

Hey guys.... So this is my first ever posting and I don't really know where to begin. I have been teaching here in Vancouver after taking my CELTA for a few months now. I need to leave home and travel and live somewhere new. I am really interested in Japan...certain parts more than others... Okinawa, Osaka, Kyoto?. South Korea...Pusan sounds appealing.

My question to all of you is : Where should I be looking? How should I start applying? Do you guys have some advice that may get this process up and running sooner....

I would love to start working somewhere in January 2006.

[email protected]

Cheers,
Hebs Cool
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are interested in Japan, perhaps you should post in the Japan forum, too.

What sort of degree do you have?
What sort of climate do you like/hate?

Coming to Japan, you are likely only going to get entry level work for a year, and after that it's up to you.

Getting a visa alone takes 4-8 weeks, so you are going to be hard-pressed to find an employer, interview (probably in his home country, not yours), and take care of storing your life's belongings before going there. Not many jobs start in January in Japan. You are better off looking for work to start in April.

If you can't come to Japan to interview, you are limited to a dozen places or so that recruit from overseas and sponsor work visas. That means you are also limited to their recruiting schedules and locations.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: What Should I do?! Reply with quote

Heba wrote:
I need to leave home and travel and live somewhere new. I am really interested in Japan...certain parts more than others... Okinawa, Osaka, Kyoto?. South Korea...Pusan sounds appealing.

My question to all of you is : Where should I be looking? How should I start applying? Do you guys have some advice that may get this process up and running sooner....

I would love to start working somewhere in January 2006.

[email protected]

Cheers,
Hebs Cool


As Glenski mentions a few places conduct interviews in US and Canada but not all of them interview in Vancouver. There are a few Japan based job sites but most jobs sites here require you are already resident in Japan and have a valid work visa. A few will hire "sight unseen" or process your visa paperwork once you arrive in the country. You can also come on a working holiday visa and look for jobs once you arrive.

FWIW I live in Kyoto, there are not that many jobs here though its nice place to live and close to Osaka. Osaka is in a bit of a glut right now, with too many new people coming over, chasing too few jobs and most of whats on offer salary-wise you wouldnt want anyway.

For a look at current jobs you can download the classifieds in osaka from kansai Flea Market

http://www.kfm.to

For jobs in Korea pay a visit to the Korea forum, you have to register separately for the Korea forum though.
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Heba



Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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Location: Vancouver, BC

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the help... Reply with quote

Hi- Thanks to Glenski and Paulh for the replies.

My degree is in Visual Arts/Dance. I love the heat hate the cold. I grew up in Kuwait (hot) then went to uni in Ontario (cold)...so I guess I can deal with both. I am a sun lover though.

Making money is obviously something I am interested in doing but I don't really have a set salary in mind. I make around $2500 CDN take home a month here which is working out for me as I am paying off those dreaded Student Loans.

I understand that the visa process etc takes a long time and I was thinking that I might just go travel while looking and applying for jobs. Or is that not a wise plan? I am not generally picky...I have pulled off quite a few extensive backpacking trips. I enjoy a good adventure.

I would prefer to stay away from the major cities (busy). I like a relaxed atmosphere.

Thanks for taking the time to throw me suggestions.
Heba
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QatarChic



Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 445
Location: Qatar

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Thanks for the help... Reply with quote

Heba wrote:
Making money is obviously something I am interested in doing but I don't really have a set salary in mind. I make around $2500 CDN take home a month here which is working out for me as I am paying off those dreaded Student Loans.

I understand that the visa process etc takes a long time and I was thinking that I might just go travel while looking and applying for jobs. Or is that not a wise plan? I am not generally picky...I have pulled off quite a few extensive backpacking trips. I enjoy a good adventure.


Yup I agree with you RE Student Loans Crying or Very sad - I only have a few months months left for mine though Very Happy

I would suggest sorting out work beforeyou go, as you are more likely to get the benefits of an expatraite, and not be employed locally....Good luck though Smile
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heba,
Is that degree a bachelor's degree? If so, you are as qualified to get work here as most other newcomers. You could land work in a conversation school at 250,000 yen/month or on the JET Program at 300,000 yen/month.

So, now the question is, do you have the time/money to come here to job hunt, or not? If not, you're limited to JET and the ten or so conversation schools that hire from overseas and sponsor visas.

To come here, you'll need about US$4000 in your pocket to cover expenses for a couple of months while you hunt.

JET hires only once a year, and the application process is rather lengthy, with applications being accepted in December, interviews in February, acceptance notices sent in April/May, and flights in July/August.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Thanks for the help... Reply with quote

Heba wrote:
My degree is in Visual Arts/Dance. I love the heat hate the cold. I grew up in Kuwait (hot) then went to uni in Ontario (cold)...so I guess I can deal with both. I am a sun lover though.Heba



Any degree is OK as long as it gets you a work visa. Must be an undergraduate bachelors degree. Any flavor will do, as its for immigration, not your employer. Schools here will train you after you have got sponsorship and your visa so dont worry about having a non-related degree.



Heba wrote:
Making money is obviously something I am interested in doing but I don't really have a set salary in mind. I make around $2500 CDN take home a month here which is working out for me as I am paying off those dreaded Student Loans.Heba


Not much choice here as everyone starts out on roughly the same. Salaries are going down lately though as there are less students and more people coming looking for jobs, a glut in the market.

Heba wrote:
I understand that the visa process etc takes a long time and I was thinking that I might just go travel while looking and applying for jobs. Or is that not a wise plan? I am not generally picky...I have pulled off quite a few extensive backpacking trips. I enjoy a good adventure.


To apply for a sponsored work visa allow up to 3 months from start to finish. Apply now and you will be here some time in January.

JET takes a long time as its a government bureaucracy (4 govt departments, participants are recruited in 20 odd countries) and the wheels turn very slowly. JET is considered the best game in town for newbies and a pretty easy way to make a living for 3 years. Getting selected is tricky as there is no formula (its a lottery who gets chosen), and you have to interview with them in your home country.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heba, I'll echo what the others have already said. Try to line up a job first. I know Geos has an office in Vancouver, so perhaps the paperwork can get done a little faster.

Other than Okinawa, it is cold everywhere in Japan in the winter. Not so much as the daytime temps are so low, but that the houses are so poorly insulated. You'll quickly learn whay everyone takes a bath before bed.


By the way, where did you do your CELTA? I did mine at Kwantlen in Richmond.
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