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wanderingsoul



Joined: 01 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Help me Reply with quote

Shocked Crying or Very sad Hi

I have recently finished a TESL 240 hour diploma course and came out with an A, Yeah! But I do not have any other college experience yet and definitely do not have a degree. But I really want to teach English overseas. I have tried looking online but they all seem to want to see a degree, does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do about this? Are there any places that do not care if you have a degree? Even China seems to want a degree to teach now! HELP Question
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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about other countries, but in China a CELTA/TESOL is considered as good as a post-graduate degree.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but in China a CELTA/TESOL is considered as good as a post-graduate degree.


You're sure?
That is crazy considering most CELTA centres only require a HS diploma and be 19 years old to gain admittance into the program.
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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
You're sure?
That is crazy considering most CELTA centres only require a HS diploma and be 19 years old to gain admittance into the program.


Yes I am sure. A DOS told me that he doesn't have a degree but has CELTA (or TESOL) and the local authorities consider it a post-graduate degree, i.e. Masters.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is really brutal. 1 month vs. 2 years. Rolling Eyes
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw wrote:
I don't know about other countries, but in China a CELTA/TESOL is considered as good as a post-graduate degree.

Hmm. I've read a few comments lately that China is starting to enforce degree requirements.

True, or no?
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Jizzo T. Clown



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650,

Maybe in Hong Kong? It seems that many schools in mainland China don't require any type of degree--not even a Bachelor's, much less an MA. I've read a lot about the schools in Hong Kong requiring their teachers to be actual teachers, i.e. holding teaching licenses from their home countries.
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wanderingsoul



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, thanks all for the info. but I already received a diploma and I do not really want to take another program like CELTA, I just want to work:)
Any suggestions? I even asked someone at Footprints recruiting in Vancouver about job possiblities and they informed me that you do need to have a degree in order to work in China now. I am sure if I just went to some country I could probably find something but thats a risk that I do not really want to take at the moment. Anyone else got some info. that may be useful to me?

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Jizzo T. Clown



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My DOS at EF, Shjiazhuang hadn't finished his degree! According to him, he'd only take a couple of years at uni, but had a few years' teaching experience and he was also doing EF's equivalent of a DELTA online, so maybe that was a stipulation of his contract...?

Instead of going through a recruiter, try speaking directly to language schools and maybe even some universities. You may have to work in a less-than-desirable part of China (where most degree'd teachers won't go), but it may get you in.
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Teacher in Rome



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is good advice.

I think it's always worth applying - even if you don't have the "official" qualifications - on the off-chance that someone is more interested in other experience or skills you might have.

Reading this forum, it seems that some countries are more stringent than others (such as Japan) but that in other locations, the regulations are more flexible. Getting teaching experience and then using this to get "better" teaching positions should be possible in many countries.
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chinwubachu



Joined: 02 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be tricky, i know Korea requires a university degree to get the E2 visa before u go. normally immigration will require the origional copy of your degree or a photocopy stamped by the uni PLus unopened transcripts and i think its pretty much the same now for china.

Hong kong seems to be pretty hard as I have a degree and tried it also, its harder to get teaching in hong kong than KOrea!

Dont know about China.

You may be better off looking in Europe as they are pretty keen on TEFL qualifications and experience.
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