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New teacher looking for work (no degree)
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a woman from my TEFL certificate course who had no degree. She found a teaching job a couple hours outside of Mexico City. The school provided her with a shared 2-bedroom apartment (the school's other native speaker teacher was her roommate). On top of that they paid her 4500 pesos cash every month. They wouldn't help her get a work visa so she was working illegally the whole time.

That type of job is typical. It's enough to survive but you won't have a lot of money for travel, nightlife, entertainment, etc.

As for non-teaching work... unless you have some special skill or a lot of relevant experience, you are out of luck as a non-local. I know of one German woman who has earned her Bachelors degree in tourism here in Mexico. She is fluent in Spanish, German and English, and has a couple of years experience in the hotel industry. She was offered a job at one of the local resorts, working as an assistant manager, for 6500 pesos. She turned it down as she can make far more money in other countries.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can probably find work at a hotel, if you want to work illegally.
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Firecat



Joined: 22 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: LA jobs Reply with quote

One thing about LA is that employers, including schools, do very little advertising regarding job openings. In the majority of cases you need to be in the country and walk through the front door and ask if there are any openings. Remember the old term �pounding the pavement?� Look at any ESL job board. The LA section in very small. There are jobs, they just don�t advertise.

Also, I�ve taught in LA for several years (I�m home in the US at the moment) and I can tell you that not having a degree will limit (not eliminate) your options. I know that is not what you want to hear, but I�m just telling you the truth.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Everybody,


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i will tell you that everyone on this website is of the opinion that you must be a seasoned teacher to find work in LA.


Not exactly. About half of my current colleagues are in their first year of teaching. (But they've studied, done certificates, etc, to be ready) And this is a pretty good job. We live well by local standards! But what I've said, and will say again, is that teaching and hoping to save in the first year is probably not how it will go in Latin America.

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willing to spend a significant amount of time living and working in LA for crappy wages.


This is the thing- I don't want to work for crappy wages. I would like a professional local wage for doing a professional job. And if you're on the "crappy wage," saving, which the OP was interested in, is probably out.

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latin america is not safe.



True, agreed, but everything is relative. I certainly haven't felt as threatened in Quito as in New York, London, Barcelona, or Naples. I agree that the police here are useless, at least in the event of robbery. (But good at collecting bribes.)
But I'm not sure what you expect the police to do when people get robbed. Prevent it, sure, but in my country, once it's happened, all they do is fill out a bunch of forms for insurance purposes. They'll do that here if you ask. Catching petty criminals is next to impossible, in most countries.

I am not being PC, just realistic. And realistically, Latin America is BIG. And some places in it are pretty safe. Many are not. But I don't find Quito worse than any other city I've seen of about the same size.

Regards,
Justin
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Jared



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
If you want to save up money, you might still be able to do so in Korea or Taiwan...
Hey buddy. He said that he doesn't have a degree. How can he get into Korea or Taiwan and work when he doesn't have a degree?
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Location: Guatebad

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladygringa wrote:
How about finding jobs for native speakers that aren't necessarily teaching, say at a hotel?

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Like selling 'friendship" in 30 minute sessions?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That isn't really so disimilar to some TEFL jobs I've had.

We're all whores at some price, I guess.

Justin
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wanderingwonderwoman



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
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Location: chile

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: blamblam Reply with quote

anything is possible.

my boyfriend does not have a degree (but did get a CELTA), and when we left home, he had practically no teaching experience (volunteered with refugees for a coupel of months). we hoped everything would just work out.

and it has.

i am a certified teacher, and we have held exactly the same posts in both countries. a native speaker in person is very hire-able.

we spent significant chunks of our savings in ecuador, but we are both savign money in chile, and we could save more if we ate delicious fish less often, or cut back on the vino Smile

i guess it was a "risk" for him to come down here, but it has never felt like one.
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Sgt Killjoy



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make it work, always if you try. Save up money? forget it, at least not at the first, and if you don't have a good business acumen, you will never get ahead to the good jobs and the good money.

If you wanna go for the experience then by all means go. You also might want to consider getting a degree before you go, yeah it might take a few years but you can make it work and you are building for the future, right?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have experience teaching, PM me and I might be able to help you out.
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