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guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

there's heaps of schools that pay over $1500 a month plus accomodation and taxes. international schools pay from $3000 a month upwards. So indonesia isn't that bad for money!

bnix · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 645

Are there really HEAPS of schools in Indonesia that pay $1500 a month?I am not doubting your word...although I am a little incredulous.Maybe it is a VERY well-kept secret?I have never taught in Indonesia...the main reason being that it has seemd to me that most of the schools do not pay much.Most of the ads I have seen say something like"competitive salary",or "we pay a salary that will alllow you to live(WOW!Thanks a lot!!"by Indonesian standards)

Maybe the schools that pay the $1500 do not have to advertise?Is that it?As for the International Schools...well,I will defer to you on that one as you say they pay around $3000 monthly...but what are their requirements?I bet there is a lot of competition and relatively few openings.If a person has a relatively decent job making $3000 a month in this field,they BETTER hold onto it!!!

Just curious as to who is offering those $1500 month jobs...I am SURE it is not EF! Rolling Eyes

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

language schools such as ef. pay 4-10 million rupiah a month

national plus schools $1300 - $3000 a month plus accom.

international schools $3000 + a month plus accom + other benefits.

I teach at a national plus school, have taught at a language school and hope to teach at an international school, but I'm married with kids and int schools don't like that!

btw there's heaps of jobs available at language and national plus schools.

johnslat · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:14 am Post subject: Getting and spending

Dear bnix,
I think guru knows whereof he speaks. Even 15 years ago, I was making $1,500 a month working in Indonesia. And, as I mentioned before, you can supplement that - often considerably - by doing " outside work ". My director at International Language Programs ( ILP ) actually asked me to take an outside job, teaching reporters at " Tempo " magazine. It was only a couple of nights a week, about 3 hours each night, but the pay was quite good. It came to about 1/2 of my " regular " salary, and the job was quite interesting ( reporters know what's REALLY going on, but usually doesn't get put in the media ). Of course, one problem I had was that, unlike Saudi Arabia, there are plenty of ways to spend what you make there. I didn't quite break even, which is why I'm back in the Kingdom.
Regards,
John

reality · Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 105

Most Teachers who earn a good income, live in a nice environment and work for a good organization. Would not want the secret to become public, especially on a forum like this one.

I myself would be very reluctant, considering the huge amount of Teachers, looking for such a job. I am sure there are thousands of
Teaching jobs, in Countries other than Saudi Arabia and Taiwan. That
offer the above conditions, with Organizations that don�t need to advertise
to get staff.

To get such a job, open your mind. Look for alternative sources of information, and don�t head for the well advertised Countries.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I tried that - going off the beaten track for EFL jobs.
It took me to West Africa and to Eastern Europe. Interesing but financially disastrous Now I am back where the $$$$$$$$'s are.

Remember John Dillinger. When asked by a reporter as to his motives for robbing banks, Dillinger said :
"That is where the money is."

You can get some sort of English teaching job in many places. However not many places will pay you serious money. And if you have a rich daddy to bail you out, or private means, you can ignore my advice.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I had forgotten about this thread until someone sent me a pm, asking for an update on KSA. We are still here !

I had a bypass but I am okay.

Hod · Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home

England pays quite well, for me.

As for the gulf states...it seems there's good money to be had, but I've never met anyone who's become financially stable as a result of a stint there, and I'm not talking about teaching jobs either.

Miserable years wasting away in an arab backwater, you'll never get them back. Life's all about compromise. If you teach and get half-decent money in nice surroundings, you're doing OK.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

England ? How can you live in that barbarous land ?

Hod · Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home

Quite easy. I shut my eyes and ignore the beheadings.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I did not know the Met beheaded people. I though they just shot them.

Super Mario · Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:24 am Post subject:

I notice everyone assumed the OP was refering to teaching English, perhaps EFL, rather than running cocaine. I'd say a teacher at the Shanghai American School would be streets ahead financially compared to what I've read here..
My salary teaching ESL in Australia is well above anything I've seen quoted on this thread, but let's be serious. Matters such as qualifications, cost of living, hours worked, benefits etc. are all part of the equation.

As for Director Of Studies...........

Boy Wonder · Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Clacton on sea

Super Mario...
yes your salary might be high but how much of it is taxed and how much can you save each month?
I could get a job here in the uk with a salary high above most ME tefl jobs...�18-20,000 oer annum..but take out the deductions and the high cost of living here in the Uk and i don't think i could afford a wet weekend in Brighton for a holiday!

moot point · Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 441

Do you know about that basket of goods that is meant to determine an expats salary? I can't remember the name of it off hand, but the last time I looked they had St. Petersburg in Russia as the most expensive country in the world. It doesn't make sense to us English teachers, as we are more apt to live by local standards.

That said, I think this thread is a difficult one to answer. We need to think of living standards, schooling, opportunities to save, etc. to find out which country is best. I personally think it would be hard to beat most of the Middle-Eastern countries but East Asia would be a close second.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

No basket of goods; just a Big Mac. It's called the Big Mac Index, and it ranks countries according to the price of a Big Mac.

There are plenty of other surveys that rank cities and countries by Parity Purchasing Power. A city or countries place on the scale depends entirely on the basket of goods that is chosen.