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Yet another (uninteresting) NOVA story

 
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InLimbo



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:51 pm    Post subject: Yet another (uninteresting) NOVA story Reply with quote

Well. I guess it's official.

NOVA didn't hire me. Hmmm. I thought
that CELTA certificate would do me some good.
After all, it proves (to me, anyway) that I
enjoy teaching and *am* an effective
teacher.

The NOVA interview was quite odd.
At no point, did the NOVA recruiter
ask me any questions regarding
actually *teaching*.

He did ask me a couple of questions
about what I found difficult about
living in Japan (I was there for
a few months in the past). I really
couldn't give him a satisfactory
answer, because truthfully I didn't
find anything difficult while in Japan (except the humid weather - which
I stated). I don't think he liked
that answer that much...

In any case, do you think perhaps
he was thinking that I was just
trying to use NOVA to get a visa
and then jump ship for a different
school once I got to Japan??

Maybe my CELTA was not welcome?
I really wanted to get hired by NOVA
and was willing to work for the long
term for that company, because
NOVA was pretty much *THE* only
company willing to give me an
interview.

I really don't know what to do next.
But I am gonna send a letter to
AEON (and I do have a GEOS
interview next month). Maybe
JET fits into the picture somehow.
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you working in Japan for a few months and then left? I think this might have been what the interviewer was getting at- why did you leave Japan after only a few months, and how will you prevent that in the future? Or it could have been your CELTA. A lot of bigger schools prefer to have malleable employees. If you do try to get on the JET programme, you should emphasize that while you have obtained your CELTA, you are very flexible about your teaching style and have no problems deferring to a Japanese teacher who might want to run their classes in a more traditional Japanese style. You will also have to address the reason you were only in Japan for a short time before. (If it was indeed a vacation or you were in Japan for study purposes, then this is a bonus with the JET programme (I was in Japan for an extended vacation and I fell in love with the place and vowed to myself that I'd return there to work and immerse myself further in the culture someday... sounds pretty good in a JET interview).

Good luck. You will find something. There are plenty of jobs out there, you just have to find one that's a good fit for you..
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Yet another (uninteresting) NOVA story Reply with quote

InLimbo wrote:
Well. I guess it's official.

NOVA didn't hire me. Hmmm. I thought
that CELTA certificate would do me some good.
After all, it proves (to me, anyway) that I
enjoy teaching and *am* an effective
teacher.

The NOVA interview was quite odd.
At no point, did the NOVA recruiter
ask me any questions regarding
actually *teaching*.


NOVA actually isnt all that interested in your teaching ability and whether or not you have previous experience. they have a 'teach by numbers', formulaic teaching method which you can pick up after a couple of days of training. After doing CELTA I would think you would find the NOVA method (drill and repeat) rather routine and repetitive.

They want to know whether you can handle 5 or 6 such classes in a row, 5 days a week, whether you are a team player and whether you are just there to party and have fun.
Also another point, some of the managers or trainers themselves will not have CELTA diplomas themselves- some of them feel a bit threatened by someone who has more training and qualifications than they do, and might start wanting to tinker with the curriculum or teaching method.








InLimbo wrote:


He did ask me a couple of questions
about what I found difficult about
living in Japan (I was there for
a few months in the past). I really
couldn't give him a satisfactory
answer, because truthfully I didn't
find anything difficult while in Japan (except the humid weather - which
I stated). I don't think he liked
that answer that much...
.


At least you didnt ask them about their drug policy or work rules banning socialisation with students. All I can suggest is be honest, when you don't know, say so as they have probably heard every reason in the book and can see through a cliche or a platitude about wanting to work in Japan.

InLimbo wrote:

In any case, do you think perhaps
he was thinking that I was just
trying to use NOVA to get a visa
and then jump ship for a different
school once I got to Japan??
.



No idea about that- I have heard that they sometime ask this in the interview, a loaded question if I ever heard it. All I guess you can do is say no, or say you will work for a year and 'see what happens'. Its often hard to tell WHAT they are thinking when they dont tell you outright.



InLimbo wrote:

Maybe my CELTA was not welcome?
I really wanted to get hired by NOVA
and was willing to work for the long
term for that company, because
NOVA was pretty much *THE* only
company willing to give me an
interview.



You want to work for them because no one else will give you an interview? Sounds like you are self-limiting yourself. Admittedly you only have a couple of choices when you are still overseas, but eevn if you dont get hired you can still come here by yourself and look for work. if you really want to get a job here, and it doesnt have to be only with NOVA. Plenty more fish if the sea, if you look hard enough and make the effort.
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BenJ



Joined: 11 May 2003
Posts: 209
Location: Nagoya

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this a little hard to believe - I have been looking for a job for my partner who does not have a degree and had no troubles at all. We sent Resumes and cover letters off to a whole list of schools using various websites to get the contact details. Some of these schools were hiring actively, others we simply 'cold-called' to see if anything was coming up. By no means did we exhaust the list we had, and my partner was offered 5 definite interviews without resorting to NOVA etc. More difficult is for me to now find a job in the same place as her, but I am not terribly concerned.

Don't wait around for that special job advert to come up, grab school contacts and start sending your details out. I can't think it would be hard to get a job if you are willing to work in any location.
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Wolf



Joined: 10 May 2003
Posts: 1245
Location: Middle Earth

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: Yet another (uninteresting) NOVA story Reply with quote

InLimbo wrote:

In any case, do you think perhaps
he was thinking that I was just
trying to use NOVA to get a visa
and then jump ship for a different
school once I got to Japan??


Everyone does this. Why single you out?

Okay, not everyone, but many, many teachers do not last the year out with NOVA. Someone said on this site that the average teacher stint was less than a year. Think of it:

NOVA et all give crap jobs but they arrange a work visa, and will take you regardless of experience.

Most smaller companies, jukus, unis, etc only hire from within the courntry.

By being a crap place to work for with many branches, NOVA is the #1 contributer to the phenomenon of EFL teachers abandoning their first Japan job for greener pastures.

I think that they didn't take you because they a) knew you wouldn't need to rely on them as much. b) Have been in Japan so you'll be more likely to spot the truth/reality from what tehy decide to tell you/what they make you do. c) You've studied how to teach and you'll be likely to butt heads with them over the "cirriculum."
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Jax



Joined: 28 May 2003
Posts: 16
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's necessarily your fault - I applied to Nova with a BA in English Language and Literature, an MA and a TEFL qualification. I was completely ignored. When I emailed them to check that they had received my application, they ignored me again.

I applied to ECC (see thread elsewhere) and they have been much better. They responded to my application for a start! I did an interview / teaching demo / test with them yesterday and they seemed friendly and even - dare I say - interested in teaching the students effectively. Though this could have just been affected, I think it was genuine. Several people there with me had worked for NOVA previously and were glad to leave for various reasons.

I'd suggest giving them a try.
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