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I'm curious, why don't more people teach at private schools?

 
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gwuerritto68



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: I'm curious, why don't more people teach at private schools? Reply with quote

Every city of ANY size in Mexico will have numerous private schools (colegios) with varying degrees of bilingual programs. While these aren't exactly the type of jobs where you can just show up on their doorstep at any time of the year and be hired, doing legwork in advance of your arrival or after you've been in a city for a few months can land you a pretty sweet job. While I do work in a decent sized (and kinda boring) city in the north, when I see some of the salaries paid by language schools for people with actual credentials my mouth drops open a bit because I can't imagine people working for so little. But maybe I'm just lucky to have the job I do, I don't know.

Maybe one of the problems for some is not having a 4-year degree? Maybe no classroom experience with kids in your native country? While these are definitely in demand in Mexico, I know several teachers who were hired locally (they had already lived in the city for several months) that didn't have either of these things yet were still hired by top schools just due to being native speakers. They don't get sweet ex-pat packages (might need to get those jobs from job fairs up north) but they do a lot better than 60 pesos per hour and there are no split shifts or dodgy payment issues.

Working with Mexican young people (many of my students might be so-called "rich kids") is definitely a challenge, but in my experience entertaining them a bit goes a LOOOOONG way towards keeping their interest.

Anyway, thought I'd throw this out there, and would be interested in hearing responses.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are a lot of people teaching in private colegios...at least the ones that pay well. There are a huge number of them that pay less than language schools, if you look at it from an hourly wage basis.

The best of the best positions require, like you say, a minimum 4-year degree, or higher. But, there are costs. Westhill in DF pays fabulously, but I'm told the conditions are not very appealing.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My city is obviously not of ANY size Embarassed we only have one private colegio, run by nuns. I know their English teacher. She's quiet good, pretty fluent in English, and interested in becoming a better teacher--she's Mexican. I think a lot of these jobs are filled by Mexicans. I know at least two colegios in the state capital do employ foriegn English teachers, they have to work way to many hours to spend much time here in the cafe...
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gwuerritto68 wrote:
Every city of ANY size in Mexico will have numerous private schools (colegios) with varying degrees of bilingual programs.

I don't think that's true in this city. All private schools (colegios) offer English classes, but very few have bilingual programs.

Not many foreigners work at private colegios here. For one thing, most private colegios want people who plan to stick around permanently, and their teachers are usually hired through connections. The same can be said of public schools. So, what does that leave? Private language schools and private "specialty" schools (schools for tourism, technology, business, etc.) Some of the religious colegios have some rather strict personal requirements: must be of the "right" religion, married, never divorced, etc. For the number of required working hours both on and off the time clock at private colegios, the pay isn't all that great. English classes usually have 40 to 60 students per class with maybe 8 or 10 in each group interested in learning English, (but the same is true for the public prepas here in that regard.)

gwuerritto68 wrote:
. . . when I see some of the salaries paid by language schools for people with actual credentials my mouth drops open a bit because I can't imagine people working for so little. But maybe I'm just lucky to have the job I do, I don't know.

Decent language schools in this city pay about the same per hour as decent private colegios. By the way, 60 pesos per hour after taxes is not considered bad pay where I live. Split shifts are required at almost all schools here: language schools, universities, private colegios, etc.

When one considers all aspects of the job including things such as pay, working conditions, job security, quality of instruction, type of medical insurance, and school status, there are no dividing lines separating private language schools, private colegios, and public schools here. In other words, there are just as many public schools that are considered top schools as there are private language schools and private colegios. There are just as many private language schools and private colegios that are considered not very good as there are public schools, and so on.

The best jobs are usually offered to teachers who have the best connections . . . and/or those who have built up a good local reputation for themselves over the years.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to go to work in a private colegio in the middle of the Sierra Tarahumara a few years ago, mainly because it was in the town closest to my favourite place on the entire planet. Kind of changed my mind when they told me the pay was $3000 (that's pesos) a month, and no help with work visas. Shocked
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