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illflip



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:50 am    Post subject: Transportation in Tokyo Reply with quote

This might sound stupid but I was wondering what the cheapest way to get around Tokyo and most efficient. Do they have monthly subway passes like we have here in North America? If so, how much are they? If anyone could give general information on how the subway system in Tokyo works that would be great.
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azarashi sushi



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Shinjuku

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Illflip ...

This might sound like a stupid answer, but the cheapest way to get around Tokyo is on foot or by bicycle. Ideally it's best to live in an area where you like to spend a lot of your time and you can walk or cycle from place to place. Most employers pay transportation costs to and from your place of work.

You can get monthly (or even six monthly) pass ... I've never looked into it that closely, but people generally get a pass from Point A to Point B along a certain route. If you ride that route 5 days a week you will save a bit of money by getting the pass.

JR has a SUICA card which is much like a debit card... You "deposit" a certain amount on your card and simply swipe the ticket gate as you exit. The amount of the fare is automatically deducted.

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If anyone could give general information on how the subway system in Tokyo works that would be great.


I'm not sure exactly what you mean... It runs much the same as any other subway system ... you buy a ticket and then you ride a train. The Tokyo train network (both above and underground trains) is very extensive but generally easy to follow. The only thing that makes it a bit confusing (and expensive) is that the trains lines are operated by different companies and so you have to buy a separate ticket (or get a transfer ticket) for each different train line (if it is operated by a different company). The subway system itself is operated by two companies: Eidan and Toei. You can transfer easily enough from one to the other but you need to get a separate ticket for each and so you're basically paying double the fare.

There is such a thing as a PASSNET card which allows you ride any line (above or underground). Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think it operates like the JR Suica card... more like a debit card than a monthly pass (whereby you save money).

A.S.
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freddie's friend daniel



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are also day passes that allow unlimited travel on the subway lines. I thought that there were also passes that allowed unlimited travel on both the subway and the metropolitan JR lines but I was unable to buy one a few weeks ago in Tokyo. The guy at the station said they weren't on sale for some reason. I bought a day-pass for 2000 yen but you really have to be zipping about to get your money's worth out of it.
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and don't forget to press the multiple trip ticket on the JR machine if you make the same journey frequently. You get 11 tickets for the price of 10.
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....and if you can use one of the private, non-JR company trains, it is also substantially cheaper.
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pnksweater



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In short, there are ways to make riding the trains/subway more convenient and ways to save a little bit of cash.

Multiple trip tickets (book of 11 for the price of 10 for a set route) are one way. Getting a monthly pass is another... if you use it more than twice a day, five days a week, for four weeks.

Passnet, Suica, and day passes make traveling easier (given that the lines you're taking are included in the pass), but will not save you any money.

Subways use a paper ticket just like the trains in Tokyo. Cost is based on distance as well. In fact, aside from the differences in price scales and the under ground thing, there's not much noticable difference between Tokyo's train system and subway system.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to travel a long distance into Tokyo on a Saturday, and I used the JR Holiday Pass. Check out this link at JR East

http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/pass/holiday_pass.html

Also, Metropolis Magazine has this informative article about tickets


http://metropolis.japantoday.com/moneytalks/321/moneytalksinc.htm
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Cshannon



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here`s my two bits: if you`re going to be in Tokyo long-term (working or whatever), and living reasonably close to your workplace, I`d seriously recommend getting a scooter/motorcycle. I don`t see many foreigners driving them and I don`t fully understand why not.
It`s by far the best and cheapest (except walking/cycling) way to go IMO. It`s easy to do. I pay around 600 yen a week for fuel and drive around everywhere. It cuts my commute time literally in half (no time wasted walking to/from the station and waiting etc.) and it beats getting on a jam-packed train first thing in the morning.
Possible downsides could include 1)driving outside if it`s raining (for this I just use a 100 yen style rain coat and it keeps my suits and I perfectly dry) 2) getting caught in traffic jams when you`re in a hurry (though this only really effects cars - scooters usually just bypass all the traffic, slipping through the cracks as it were). As for a license, I just have a Canadian plus an international one. I think for bigger bikes you may need a Japanese license, but I`m not sure exactly.
Finding free parking is almost never a problem, even in strict no-parking zones you`re unlikely to ever get a ticket unless you park for a long time (just too many illegally parked bikes and scooters, too few parking tickets I guess), and I usually just use the smaller side streets to park anyway.
I used to use the train for a few months when I first got here. Switching to a scooter changed my life for the better. Not only is it really cheap and convenient but you`ll get to know the city way better than if you`re underground in the metro all the time. I honestly don`t understand why anyone would want to take the train unless they really had to...
Used scooters can usually be bought for under 100,000 yen (try Yahoo auctions) depending on how old/big. If you get a big one you can even use it to go on far trips by highway (like to Osaka or Kyoto etc.) too. It`s a very good investment IMO.
So that`s my suggestion. But if you`re only in town for a few weeks or something, don`t bother...

BTW, I`m living/working inside the Yamanote line in a very urban setting, so I`m not sure how well all my points would hold up if you were in, say, Saitama or rural Kanagawa etc. with a very far commute
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Jon Taylor



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the above scooter post I have a question or two.....

- What size cc of scooter can one drive on a standard driving licence in Japan (this differs from country to country and many allow up to a 125cc) I do not have a specific motorbike licence

- Once you have bought the scooter, how many more costs aside from the obvious gas are required (eg....insurance, registation etc)


I agree with what you said Cshannon and am seriously considering the purhcase of a scooter.
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The Dog Ate My Keitai



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this was asked a while back.... (about scooters). Try these threads:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=13157&highlight=scooter

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=5951&highlight=scooter

Hope that helps. I found them with the "Search" function and used "scooter" as a keyword and limited my search to the Japan forum.
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Cshannon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Regarding the above scooter post I have a question or two.....

- What size cc of scooter can one drive on a standard driving licence in Japan (this differs from country to country and many allow up to a 125cc) I do not have a specific motorbike licence

- Once you have bought the scooter, how many more costs aside from the obvious gas are required (eg....insurance, registation etc)


Sorry for the delay...
I just drive a 50cc scooter (which is ideal for downtown) and I need no special license. If you want a bigger bike though, I think you need a special license. Sorry I don`t have much info on how to get one, but I`m pretty sure Japanese scooter licenses are completely separate from regular Japanese car licenses (if you have one of those). And I`m not sure if you can pair a scooter/motorcycle license (for more than 50cc) from another country with a basic international license and use them in Japan. Basically it gets a bit more complicated after 50cc, but I think it shouldn`t be much of a problem to get a Japanese scooter license if need be (though I don`t really know).

I can`t remember the exact cost for insurance, but it was quite cheap - like around 7000 yen for a whole year. And as I said before, gas is dirt cheap even with all the oil price hikes of late. I reckon I spend no more than 3000 yen per month on fuel and drive everywhere.

If you have your license(s) in order, I`d say go for it. I`ve been totally happy with mine and would never go back to taking the train. You`ll add so much freedom to your life and end up seeing so many more places that you would likely have never gotten around to seeing otherwise. It`s so worth it. Good luck!
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prufrock



Joined: 05 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Do smaller scooter owners need licenses like in korea? Reply with quote

In South Korea, the smaller/est scooters require no license at all. Not in Japan, eh? How about riding on sidewalks?! Thanks for any help.
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