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Ripped off or not? You do the math
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izzyismydog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Location: cold north-ish regions of Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Ripped off or not? You do the math Reply with quote

comments regarding our situation please.

My September contract started on Sept. 26th, which was a Monday. My monthly salary for working 27 hours a week, Mon-Fri is 1700YTL.

I will be paid 283.33 YTL for that month, one work week, 5 of 22 potential working days in that month. BUT THE SCHOOL IS DOING THE MATH BASED ON ALL 30 DAYS OF SEPTEMBER BECAUSE SEPT HAS 30 DAYS

BUT one work week of work, 5 of 22 working days is 77.27 per day, which multiplied by the five days is 386. 36. So as far as I can tell I was shorted 106. 03!

I DON'T work weekends, is it fair of them to divvy the pay up that way? They did the same thing to my boyfriend, so between the two of us we were shorted 200YTL or so. (they also shorted us each another 33.33 on top of that but will correct that as it was due to an accounting error, supposedly)

We chose this school to work for because they seemed to have a reasonable reputation, depsite having this year cut back on salaries and not given raises to repeat employees this year. I will not name names yet, but we've been fighting this for almost a month before they finally said all we will get is the 33.33 that they shorted us based on a 30 day working month!
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TeachEnglish



Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your situation does not sound good.. but if your contract or working agreement is for week days and not weekends.. then you were screwed.. but if your contract does not state only week days working..then they are right.. Most places consider Saturday and Sunday regular working days too.. because that is when they have most lessons.. Speak to them.. give them the opportunity to correct the situation, especially if your contract/agreement is for week days only.. and if they do not correct this.. quit.. but find a better job first.. Laughing Yes I know it does not sound nice... but they do not sound too nice either.. Laughing
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tekirdag



Joined: 13 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like they did very simple math, doesn't it? 1 week of four. They obviously aren't thinking "days".

It is very hard to make any money in Turkey, for us and for Turks.

I still haven't been paid for August and I know Turks who are also having trouble getting their pay on time. Even my private lessons pay when they feel like it and ALWAYS come late. It is the way things are here and, unfortunately, those who push hard and complain probably won't get what they want or will be in a bad light in the admin office even if they do.

Workers are (mostly) expected to take what they get and be quiet about it. Shocked

Unfortunately, problems like yours often happen in Turkey. If you don't get a satisfactory solution to your problem, find a new job or leave Turkey. You aren't likely to get anyone to see your side of the problem. If it helps at all, I don't think they are plotting to rip you off. I think they are simply viewing pay in a whole different light from a westerner. They probably think they are being fair. Laughing

My father in law's secretary doesn't even have a salary. They expect her to ask for money when she needs it!! Shocked Shocked

Sadly, Turkey is a place to enjoy kabap and the beaches, not to make money. Sad

I wonder how many posters on this boards actually HAVE NEVER lost pay at some point in Turkey, or had to change schools because of problems etc....I'd bet good money(if I had any) Laughing on the answer being not many.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
HAVE NEVER lost pay at some point in Turkey,
ME (late, yes but never lost any)
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Mark Loyd



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The not been ripped off club is not counting social security payments that have not been paid.
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Baba Alex



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entrailicus wrote:
Sorry guys, but I've got to join the never been ripped off club.


I'd rather not call it being ripped off. That's when you give money in faith and find out you should have paid less.

I prefer to call it theft. And I am a member of the club, thanks to my old school. I won't mention that it's called ILM though.
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justme



Joined: 18 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*grumble*

Not getting into it.
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izzyismydog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Location: cold north-ish regions of Canada

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: the thing is... Reply with quote

The contract ıs for a monthly salary.

We are contracted OUT to a unı and we work ONLY Mon to Frı.

The employees who work at regular branches of my school work all days- so maybe thıs ıs why they thınk they can get away wıth ıt? A salary for a regular teacher ıs over 7 days a week but not for us!

Somebody poınted out that sınce our contract ıs based on hours that we are then being stolen from at that angle too, ıf you dıvvy up our 27 hours over 5 days they would be rıght to keep back that money but we are paıd over 5 days so they have kept about 7 or 8 hours of pay.

Any way I fold ıt they are rat b*stards. I have never been ın any country anywhere where we have to fıght for everythıng and face being rıpped off by everyone from the taxi driver to our employers.

ıt SUX!

and we are definitely considering a move...
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saloma



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and we are definitely considering a move...


Are you thinking different school or different country?
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izzyismydog



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