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ghost
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 Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: Using the Kurdish language is still problematic in Turkey... |
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W and Q forbidden in Turkey
20 fined for using letters W and Q
DIYARBAKIR, Turkey (Reuters) -- A Turkish court has fined 20 people for using the letters Q and W on placards at a Kurdish new year celebration, under a law that bans use of characters not in the Turkish alphabet, rights campaigners said.
The court in the southeastern city of Siirt fined each of the 20 people 100 new lira ($75.53) for holding up the placards, written in Kurdish, at the event last year. The letters Q and W do not exist in the Turkish alphabet.
Under pressure from the European Union, Turkey has improved language and human rights for its Kurdish minority, but the EU says implementation has been patchy and loopholes remain.
The 1928 Law on the Adoption and Application of Turkish Letters changed the Turkish alphabet from the Arabic script to a modified Latin script and required all signs, advertising, newspapers and official documents to only use Turkish letters.
More than 30,000 people have been killed, most of them Kurds, since the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels began an armed campaign for Kurdish self-rule in the mainly Kurdish southeast of Turkey.
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It seems Turkey is still not 'home and dry' when it comes to being reasonable with the rights of Kurds to express themselves.
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Using the Kurdish language is still problematic in Turke |
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More than 30,000 people have been killed, most of them Kurds, since the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels began an armed campaign for Kurdish self-rule in the mainly Kurdish southeast of Turkey.
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How strange that there is no reference to terrorism here?
Are the PKK not terrorists? |
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Mark Loyd
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think Baba Alex raised an interesting point there. It seems that organisations are terrorists or not terrorists depending on how useful they are to the relevant powers.
Barzani`s forces are not terrorists because Turkey uses them as a bulwark against the PKK and the US and Britain want to placate Turkey as well as use Barzani to stabilise Northern Iraq.
General Rashid Dostum was antil Taleban for most of the nineties and so was a freedom fighter and allowed access to weapons, money and intelligence from Ankara amongst others as well as being able to keep his wife and family there. Look up his human rights record. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Why aren't shops like NeXt or I C Waikiki(sp) banned? |
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Mark Loyd
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What about English West in Izmir?
Do the students and Turkish staff call it English Vest? |
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whynotme
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark Loyd wrote: |
| I think Baba Alex raised an interesting point there. It seems that organisations are terrorists or not terrorists depending on how useful they are to the relevant powers. |
but some have no chance.
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Mark Loyd
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I hope you are not referring to the Chechens who have Russian nationality and so have no freedom to fight for.
Perhaps if the Ottomans had not lost the Russo-Turkish war then the Chechens would now be fighting Turkey for their ''freedom.'' |
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dmb
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Does anyone remember when the government tried to get the tv stations star,show,etc to change their names because they weren't Turkish words? |
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Mark Loyd
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Yeah.
Does anyone remember the time when you could make a living working at a language school and the time when most of the teachers had a degree and a cert? |
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dmb
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Are you referring to the good ole days of English Fast? |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Mark Loyd wrote: |
Yeah.
Does anyone remember the time when you could make a living working at a language school and the time when most of the teachers had a degree and a cert? |
Alas I don't! Did this ever happen? |
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Mark Loyd
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| It certainly did back in the rare auld times. |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Mark Loyd wrote: |
| It certainly did back in the rare auld times. |
We can only dream, and hope that one day, over the rainbow, there will be land of visas and insurance that we have all been promised. |
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Mark Loyd
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| Are you referring to the good ole days of English Fast? |
I refer to it now as English Paradise and to Nazif Bey as God.
For those like Alex who never knew such happiness and security, a few highlights of life in paradise:
a guaranteed airport pick up
monthly salary
advances whenever you wanted
a free furnished flat
air ticket paid in full
no rip offs
weekly teacher development sessions from someone who knew his suff
sick pay
a months holiday in the summer
iqama
no visa runs
Enough? |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark Loyd wrote: |
| dmb wrote: |
| Are you referring to the good ole days of English Fast? |
I refer to it now as English Paradise and to Nazif Bey as God.
For those like Alex who never knew such happiness and security, a few highlights of life in paradise:
a guaranteed airport pick up
monthly salary
advances whenever you wanted
a free furnished flat
air ticket paid in full
no rip offs
weekly teacher development sessions from someone who knew his suff
sick pay
a months holiday in the summer
iqama
no visa runs
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İqama? noooo
that has 'q'! Surely not.
but I do understand, kind of glad I'm out of the game......sort off. |
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