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fluffyhamster
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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| Right. So, seeing as the locals who could conceivably also do the job are more than likely going to be pretty well educated, it's therefore only fair that the same (i.e. on average at least a first degree) is asked of any competing foreign workers. |
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Guy Courchesne
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree with that.
The question of native-speakers hired to fulfill student expectations...I see that more as advertising for private language schools than anything else. In Mexico City, then number of qualified (and unqualified) local ELTs far outstrips that of foreign-born. |
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Babala
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Location: Henan
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I guess you can also go with the argument, where do they draw the line? Now the OP mentioned that they had a 2 year certificate. Should that be the requirement? What about someone who only has a high school education? Most countries have made the decision that it will be a degree.
To the OP,
There are places in China that will allow you to get a work visa without a degree (providing you have TEFL/TESOL). You won't be in Shanghai or Beijing, you will be out in the poorer provinces but if you really want to teach, it can be done. |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Value of a four year degree |
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| Cdaniels wrote: |
| (and a certain level of mental and emotional stability) |
Remember, the unabomber was a university professor.
I'm among those who doesn't put much stock in college degrees. Maybe it's because of my Appalachian ancestry, maybe it's because I worked my way into my present job, maybe it's because I've met too many people with college degrees who weren't exactly the brightest crayons in the box; I don't know. If my employer wanted to hire someone "off the street" to do the job I worked my way into, that person would be required to have a J.D. (juris doctor) degree or a similar doctorate and that person would know less about the job than I did when I was first promoted into it five years ago.
On the other hand, if I had been a human resource manager and had before me two applicants with equal experience but only one of the two had a college degree, I might be a bit more inclined to interview the one with the degree. |
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Greywolfe
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ooops I forgot about the little rant I posted, very surprised to come back to a two page thread.
I appreciate the replies although it seemed to turn into a long running arguement. I am glad I got a few different perspectives on it and a few different reasons. It helps me swallow it a little easier now.
I'll keep doing my research into it and you never know maybe go back to college and get that infernal degree.
Thanks for the input guys. |
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