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Roger
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 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:39 am Post subject: Re: Look who's talking |
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| Dragonfly01 wrote: |
What about the so-called native English speakers who wrote "here" instead of "hear" and "acheive" instead of "achieve" in this thread?
Aren't you requiring too much from your students since the bottom line (at least I think so) is to have them get their message through? Sure, we need to correct them after they make a mistake, yadda, yadda...but we should take into consideration that English is a difficult language for their cognitive standards. Ever tried to speak Chinese without making mistakes?  |
I seriously think you have an ideological chip on your weak shoulder! You are not helping your students become proficient at communicating in English; you are pitying them. THey already pity themselves,and they have good enough reasons for that - they do not choose to study English, their narrow-minded parents do.
Who says English is "difficult"? You might say the exact contrary, and it would be as true as your claim - it all depends on the individual!
This thread is a summary of recurrent weaknesses in the English communications ability of our learners; it is a long list, and still growing; this shows that the English instruction they get is somewhat defective!
Maybe you can rectify this by your efforts at the right place - maybe if normal schools hired FTs only they would learn how to avoid these ptifalls. |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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"how about you?"
or "how about your weekend?"
when the meaning intended is "how are you?" or "how was your weekend?" |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005
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Location: Australia, previously China
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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send/take [I will send you to the airport]
excited/exciting [You must be very exciting to be here] Also applies to bored/boring etc.
lend/borrow [although native speakers -ill educated ones - also make this error]
Again, these are mostly L1 transfer problems. We make transfer errors when we speak Chinese. |
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Mideatoo
Joined: 19 Jul 2005
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Location: ...IF YOU SAY SO...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Super Mario wrote: |
| lend/borrow [although native speakers -ill educated ones - also make this error] |
Mario has the privilege to deal with native that are confusing "Lend and Borrow..".
Ooops sorry, must have been Chinese natives... hehehehe!! |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005
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Location: Australia, previously China
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Mario has the privilege to deal with native that are confusing "Lend and Borrow.." |
natives who, surely.
If Midetoo can distinguish between an English speaker and one who speaks English, he might start understanding this thread. |
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Mysterious Mark
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Neglecting to voice a final s: his pronounced as hiss, etc.
Pronouncing an O as a U: Octoober
Forming all ordinal numbers with -th: Octoober thirty-oneth (or thirty-firth)
"They are nice to meet you!" They certainly were.  |
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KES
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Super Mario wrote: |
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| Mario has the privilege to deal with native that are confusing "Lend and Borrow.." |
natives who, surely.
If Midetoo can distinguish between an English speaker and one who speaks English, he might start understanding this thread. |
Unlikely. More probably he will, as in my case, send you via PM, a spate of unsolicited hate filled screeds in Chinglish.
If we all ignore him perhaps he'll move to the China Daily forums where his level of English might, with improvement, on a good day, comparatively, reach adequacy. |
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dajiang
Joined: 13 May 2004
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Location: Guilin!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: |
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It's not a very common error to say 'erros' though.
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