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steven_gerrard



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Newbie Questions about Istanbul Reply with quote

Hello all,

I am due to arrive in Istanbul in January. I don't have a job lined up, but I have been saving for a while and have a decent amount of money behind me to tide me over. I have been to Turkey before (most notably on 25th May 2005) but only as a tourist, not as a worker. I hope some of you established Istanbullers can help me out with a few questions:

1) Is part-time/ by the hour teaching work easy to come by?
2) How much should I expect to pay for a small but decent flat somewhere fairly central in the city?
3) Do I need any kind of work permit? (I am a UK national) If so, what is required for this permit? Will I need any health tests?


Thanks a lot.

SG
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(most notably on 25th May 2005)
What a night that was Very Happy
To answer your questions: pt7 work is easy to come by.
A flat can cost as much or as little as you want. You get what you pay for. Don't go for the mega cheap in terlıbaşı in the centre or equally don't pay over the odds in.. ahem Cıhangır.
to be legal you need a CELTA and a BA.
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Mark Loyd



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you don't need a celta and a ba to be legal.
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tekirdag



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you don't need a celta and a ba to be legal.


It doesn't have to be a celta. But a tefl/tesl certificate of some sort is needed for "dershane" work.
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Mark Loyd



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two seperate issues here. Firstly what is needed to get a job and secondly what is needed to get a work permit. A possible third issue is what is needed to get citizenship or a residence permit.

Firstly, to get a job, we all know that a native speaker can do the rounds and get an hourly paid job. We all know that the job is likely to be poor and the poor unfortunate is likely to be ripped off but they can get a job. I personally know people with no degree, experience or cert who have got jobs at private unis, language schools, high schools, private primary schools etc.

Secondly, assuming you want to be legal, which many punters do not care about since they only plan to spend a year or two in Ist, you have to do the paperwork and hence you need qualifications. But nobody checks if the employer's documents are ok. Nobody contacts the unis or awarding bodies so if the paperwork looks good then you will eventually get your work permit. Google as dmb would say this topic because the UAE are now insisting that all qualifications for any work permit must be authenticated by a private company who check with all awarding bodies. They charge just ten pounds for UK qualifications.

It is absurd to say that teachers need a ba and a celta since the celta is largely a Brit qualification and what about those with cert eds. etc. You can buy a work permit from one of the many visa cos. in Ist if you are willing to fork out 2000 dollars or if you do'n't want to be legal why not just do the visa run. For those rare teflers with any money why not buy a cheap property in a tourist resort and get an automatic residence permit.

Lastly, language schools could weed out the fakes and the nutters if they really wanted for just 10 pounds a time but they don't. Says something about what they care about.
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calsimsek



Joined: 15 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark:
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with any money why not buy a cheap property in a tourist resort and get an automatic residence permit.


Wrong.....Buying a ''cheap property'' does not mean an automatic permit. You still viewed as a turist and don't forget that a residence is not the same as a work permite.

It may be crazy but you can get one without the other.
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corall



Joined: 23 Apr 2004
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Location: istanbul, turkey

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it is wierd. and once you get the work permit you have to apply for the residency within 30 days (if you don't have one) or else your work permit becomes void.
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rrrichard



Joined: 12 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone was going to, say... pound the pavement looking for a job in Istanbul, where would one even start?
I can't imagine a local telephone book being any use, since it would be in Turkish. How would one find the schools! Wink
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basiltherat



Joined: 04 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Foreigners can't buy property in Turkey at the moment.


on this subject, any news on indications wen things might change would be great. I'm seriously considering getting a place on the coast but cant do anything now of course; just looking at different prices and locations. I'll keep watching the news but any hints of change wud be welcome from you guys since your on the ground there. also in regard to residency connected with property purchase.
Thanks n best regards
basil
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tekirdag



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If someone was going to, say... pound the pavement looking for a job in Istanbul, where would one even start?


Some schools are English Time, The English Centre, Berlitz, The wall Street Institute, Interlang. These should all have websites with contact information. The bigger schools do. Google them, I am sure you'll find something.

I was walking in Istanbul one day and saw a school. I walked in and asked to be shown around. The assistant director of studies gave me a little tour and we talked. I later gave them my resume and ended up working there more than three years. Pounding the pavement does work.

Going into a school and meeting the managment face to face is far better than getting a job over the net. Over the net you can't know what u r really getting.
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TeachEnglish



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berlitz will hire you with before you get here.. But beware of them.. It can be a good place to get a start. They will not rip you off..too bad.. I suggest contact The Wall Street Institute.. they have a pretty good package. I would stay away from the other ones mentioned. Good Luck
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turkishlover25



Joined: 27 Sep 2005
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Location: Charleston, IL USA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well what is so bad about English Time? (I hope that isn't too much of a newbie question Question )
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BERRY



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:57 am    Post subject: Buying a property in Turkey Reply with quote

I would suggest that rather than buying a property "on the coast" one would be better off buying one in Istanbul proper. Buying a flat in Istanbul can be relatively cheap - you WILL have to work on it though - DIY is a must! You will then be able to get into the Turkish property scene proper - chances are you will eventually flog it to a Turk and move on to your next property - could be "on the coast"...
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entrailicus:
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Foreigners can't buy property in Turkey at the moment.


Been through this before, you can buy in some selected areas. You can buy in most parts of any big city.

Rate of return is well over 18 % p/p in real $ terms. If you have been here for more than 3 years are legal and can get some one to counter sign for you, you can get loan now at around 1.15 to 1.05% per month fo as much as 30 years.

I'm not a brooker or an agent, but I have worked for and still work part time for a property consulting company. So an very intereseted in the market and follow the developments.

The law of a year or so ago, which made it simpler for foreigners to buy property is to be reintroduced into parliment early next year, this depends on there being no early election in spring 2006. If there; is the law will wait till after the election.

In short the law will change, but it needs time. Either next March or September, either way its in 2006. So if anyone is interested they should position themselfs to act fast next year.
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