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Will Turkey start to deport teachers like Taiwan does?

 
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ghost



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Will Turkey start to deport teachers like Taiwan does? Reply with quote

In Taiwan a recent trend has been happening more and more, and that is the deportation of foreign teachers who do not possess the required documentation and permit (ARC) from the Ministry of Education. Also those who have a legal ARC but work at more than one school (the ARC is for one school only).

Officials from the Ministry are visiting schools and asking teachers to sign a document (in Chinese). The officials behave very nicely to the teachers on these visits and tell them 'there is nothing to worry about.' Then, several weeks later, these teachers receive official letters from the Taiwan authorities telling them they have 14 days to leave the country. These are deportation order letters...

Those teachers are also put on a Red List and are barred from coming back to Taiwan, and the ban is a permanent one for those who have broken the rules.

The rule in Taiwan is simple - you can only work for One School, and the name of that school has to appear on your ARC. If you work for another school, and you are visited by the officials - your days in Taiwan are numbered and you can forget about coming back. Those who refuse to comply with the Deportation orders can be thrown into jail, alongside common criminals and drug trafficers.

Turkey, up till now, has been very relaxed, turning a blind eye to the large percentage of teachers who are not Turkish Ministry of Education approved. It is partly a question of supply and demand.

In Taiwan, where the financial incentives are much greater than Turkey (most teachers make at least $2000 U.S. per month, and many make as much as $3000 to $4000 U.S. per month, by teaching 'privates' on the side) - the Ministry is taking a hard line view of teachers who do not fulfil the Ministry regulations, and even worse if teachers have 'fake degrees and certificates.'

Times have changed, and you should think twice about coming to Taiwan if you do not have the proper paperwork and ARC approval.

Ghost in Taichung, Taiwan.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you getting worried Ghost Wink I've heard of teachers being turned down work visas but never deported, well just the once. (got busted with drugs)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: In and out is easy..... Reply with quote

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Are you getting worried Ghost I've heard of teachers being turned down work visas but never deported, well just the once. (got busted with drugs)


No not worried at all. Ghost has a full ARC and work permit (obtained before arriving in Taiwan) so everything is legal.

Most teachers (but not ghost so far) teach 'privates' on the 'side' and that is also illegal, but if no one talks, then no one knows. Most teachers in Taiwan do 'privates' on the side (after their regular jobs) because it is very lucrative and the work is plentiful.

The point one was trying to make is that many schools in Taiwan, especially in Taipei (the Capital) are getting these 'visits' from the Taiwanese Education authorities, and teachers who are either working without an ARC and also teachers who are moonlighting in other schools are getting their marching orders a few weeks after being caught. There is no discussion or arbitration process. In Taiwan if you break the rules, you are out and that is it.

In Turkey, as was mentioned, the Ministry takes a more flexible view, and doesn't really concern itself with tracking foreigners who teach in Turkey. It is a different set up, and is well suited to backpackers and casual workers.

If and when Turkey eventually joins the Euro. club, that may change.

Ghost in Taichung, Taiwan.
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