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cwc · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 372

POINT WELL TAKEN

Cdaniels · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: N00bs

I have to disagree! Twisted Evil

I am encouraged by cwc's responses that he is most likely just a newbie, but I think Samantha is within her rights to challenge him because the world of ESL is filled with scammers. 'Sam' did her 'homework,' checking the references cwc has made. Obviously she is taking him seriously, and not just 'baiting.' While serious problems can be reported to the moderators, the community should let even subtle underhanded pro recruiters know that they are unwelcome. One of the reasons I stick with Dave's is because many other websites I see are filled with promotional fluff and misleading advertising. cwc may be a very helpful individual and I hope he can be forgiving, but I think Samantha is simply coming to the defence of a nice community here. I'm sure a Texan can appreciate that.
(recruiting is a legitimate practice but I think anyone who has researched ESL on the net knows what I'm talking about.)

cwc · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 372

I resent having my authenticity doubted. If one follows the instructions as given and searches for Colegio Americano Gipsy on google or yahoo, one will see a disparaging message on this site that is no longer in the archives. My only intent is to clean up the old baseless propaganda that is very visible. We all know that before considering a job one makes a routine check on these well-known search engines. Why all the hostility?

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

MELEE · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject:

I have to say that I came close to reporting cwc, because I've had posts deleted in the past when they came too close to being recruiting. (I do consider this forum a recruiting tool by the way). But I didn't report it because I would have just been doing it to spite him, He's gotta fork over the $75 dollars just like everyone else! Not because I thought his posts were offensive. And that didn't seem like a valid reason... Rolling Eyes

cwc · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 372

Now we can move on to the real topic of this thread, advising where the good jobs are and who gets what kind of bonuses. Thank you Guy and MELEE for your unbiased opinions.

Samantha · Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera

Guy says:

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

cwc · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 372

I see that Guy is fair in his statements. He gave both sides of the argument. Pease stop all this useless bickering and discuss something worth reading. Samantha and the others should tell us about their housing, their classroom conditions or anything but whether they think it is okay to do what has already been done. How much does it cost to go out to dinner? Is public transportation good? Do the cabs overcharge you? How many students in your classes? How much do you pay the CFE? Are your house and school air-conditioned? Do you have an office? How much do you charge for private classes? How many private classes do you do in a week? Lets talk about the real issues. As veterans we have a responsibility to inform the people in colder climes.

ls650 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia

grahamcito · Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 90 Location: Guadalajara

So how did we all do this year?

My aguinaldo (sic) was a mighty two days' pay. This has to keep me going through the two and a half weeks my school is closed and I�m on unpaid vacation.

Bah humbug.

Ben Round de Bloc · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946

Samantha · Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera

Graham, it sounds as if the law is being violated there. Just out of curiousity, are you working only part time? That is the only instance I can think of where you wouldn't get paid vacation, but still, by law you should be getting your aguinaldo. Even part-time cleaning ladies get aguinaldo!

Tim, your school sounds like it is doing everything correct by the law. This is the kind of thing that makes a difference in retaining good staff. A happy teacher at vacation time is a happy teacher the rest of the year!

grahamcito · Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 90 Location: Guadalajara

Samantha, I'm almost ashamed to say I work full-time - normally 35-40 classroom hours a week.

Teachers at my school received negligible 'Christmas bonuses' (the school is very careful not to call it an aguinaldo). The lowest received was 250 pesos. We get no vacation pay, no vales, and like I said in my previous post, my bonus was equivalent to only two days� pay.

Yes, the school is breaking the law. I�ve asked them to explain the situation, but have so far been told only that it�s "complicated".

Are other language schools paying up this year? or are many avoiding paying their dues?