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A Mexican Christmas
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I do believe it IS rice based. It is definitely worth a try no matter.
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:04 am    Post subject: Bah, humbug! Reply with quote

Christmas comes but once a year. That's once too often. Twisted Evil
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, humbug!
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Zorastrian astrologers Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Three King's Day (Dia de los Reyes Magos) is January 6th, and the day when many kids get their gifts.

I wonder if this has a connection or relation to pre-Christian festivals in Mexico. Question
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question, but as far as I know, I don't think so. The Aztecs celebrated, or rather, dreaded, the first four days of the year, known as dead-days or non-days. These were days that didn't fit nicely into the Aztec calendar.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know what tequino is--must be a northern thing


I did a bit of research and discovered several beverages with similar names. They all sound rather yucky.

Tejuino

It is prepared based on the ferment of corn. It is a type of cold atole accompanied with ice, usual in the states of Colima and Sonora. In the state of Jalisco this beverage is prepared with salt and lemon, and some people like to have with lemon sherbet, while in San Luis Potosi and Puebla they prepare it with opuntia and peel of palo de timbre.

Tesquino

A beverage prepared with just born corn, grind and fermented, and comes from Jalisco. It is prepared especially for some festivities, but now it is consumed daily.

Tequino

A typical beverage of the state of Aguascalientes; it is a product resulting from the aging of corn. Occasionally it is accompanied with lemon and calcium bicarbonate.

Tesg�ino

Also called Batari, it is the most popular beverage among the Tarahumaras in the state of Chihuahua. Over a bed of pine leafs they place the grains of corn, they are covered with branches and moistened until they germinate. After grinding and boiling them, the liquid is strained and deposited on large pots to ferment. It is customary to add some grain to accelerate the fermentation. This beverage has a whitish look, of a bitter taste, of low alcoholic content, is the most traditional and popular among the Tarahumaras, who drink it in festivities and dances, in the rituals and in the ceremonies.[/url]
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Tres Reyes Reply with quote

Aintcha never read da Bible? You know, da tree wise men who brought da kid Gold Myrrh and Frankenstein?
The Tres Reyes is a Spanish importation; said festival is still celebrated in Espain.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder if this has a connection or relation to pre-Christian festivals in Mexico. Question


Maybe I missed something here. Are you referring to a particular festival?
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Happy Saturnalia! Reply with quote

No actually I recently read how the "three kings" were originally three Persian astrologers (according to earliest texts) They would have been Zoroastrian astrologers (or priests) and not "kings" at all. I then wondered if there were similar legends about Aztec astrologers making a prophecy and giving gifts. In Europe, Christmas was a pagan celebration of the winter solstice and I wondered if there were other ancient Mexican winter solstice traditions. Basically I'm just stirring up trouble! Twisted Evil




PS Graham, I'm still recovering from a Catholic education, and all-too-familiar with the old stories!
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think kings is not an exact translation. Here, they say 'los reyes magos", which would be sage kings, or wise men I guess as I recall from my Catholic education Wink
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From some horrible Christmas song...

"We three kings of Orient are.." fits in nicely with the Persian hypothesis, especially since in lots of stories one of them is very dark skinned...
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Dark skinned king. Reply with quote

I think the brother was Melchor.
In Spain he's invariably represented by a honky with a painted face.
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: xmas Reply with quote

It's the entire village's children walking down the main street through the centro with a few attending adults and their votive candles in their hands.
It's the children screaming in delight at the bobbing pinata just out of harms way of an urchins baton.
It's the fairy princesses walking to church on the 20th.
That's the magic of a Mexican Xmas.
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