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Perpetual Traveller

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 651 Location: In the Kak, Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Here is, point by point, my �problem� with your question/posts.
1. Your initial question was directed ONLY to �guys� and referred specifically to the beauty of Mexican women. This immediately suggested to me that you were not interested in hearing much about Mexican women beyond their physical attributes and whether they�d be willing to date a foreigner and put out. It came across as sexist and mildly offensive.
2. When someone responded to your question in a general, non-offensive way, you then requested more information asking for a comparison between Mexican and other Latin American women. This again came across as sexist, offensive and objectifying women. My thought was, as I have written before, what are you hoping to hear in answer to this question? Some kind of point by point comparison? A list of their attributes or a score out of ten? I also thought your question was ridiculously broad which is where my �ask a stupid question' (get a stupid answer) comment came from.
3. You then responded by saying that if I didn�t wish to write a well-articulated reply then I shouldn�t bother to respond at all. Then when ls650 wrote a post that was supportive of my questioning the legitimacy of your post you again attacked calling me �some hound�. I responded to this and then you accused me of taking what you said personally, how else was I supposed to take it?
4. I only questioned your articulation and grasp of English in reply to you doing the same thing of me, the same with my comment regarding your age. I did not resort to name calling, merely to expressing my opinion that your question was unsuitable and yet you chose to describe me as a pain in the ass, belligerent, defensive, rash, unthoughtful, having a chip on my shoulder and a couple of swear words that were censored.
5. You mention that you had been told by other people that your question was fine but conveniently ignored the fact that several people had also agreed with my suggestion that your question was unsuitable.
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| Foxandme wrote: |
| Do you want to have a conversation on the topic or the point of the topic, or do you want to bicker? If you want to talk, let's talk. Say something to the point and I'll write too. |
Well I would have liked to contribute but you specifically said in your first post that you were soliciting the opinion of guys. Looks like thelmadatter and melee really shouldn�t have contributed their interesting points either as they�ve totally sidetracked your precious thread and are female!
7. You told me twice to move on and yet you post to me on the forum and then follow it up with a PM not twenty minutes later. Perhaps you should take your own advice.
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| It�s got nothing to do with you. |
On the contrary, I am a member of this forum too and if I find something offensive and sexist then I have every right to make my thoughts known.
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| Foxandme wrote: |
| Lighten up or get out. |
Again perhaps you need to take some of your own advice if this is how defensive you get over a little mild criticism. This forum is a lot like real life, not everyone here is going to stroke your ego or treat you with kid gloves.
Personally I am not going to waste any more time with this. I found your post offensive and sexist you don�t see why. Nothing I say is going to change your mind so I am going to take your only bit of sound advice and move on.
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PlayadelSoul

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit to a bit of curiousity. Had this thread been started by a gay male asking about the quality of the gay scene in Mexico, would it have been met with as much venom? Makes one wonder if this isn't just an opportunity for some hetero male-bashing. Like the TV, if you don't like what you see, turn the channel.
As far as I know, there is no rule stating that every thread need apply to me. When someone asks about a school I have no knowledge of, I don't reply. In this case, he was asking for the opinion of men (or, I suppose, lesbians). If you find that offensive, then Mexico probably isn't the place for you, to begin with.
PC runs rampant in the ESL community. It doesn't mean, however, that we all agree with the attempts at peer censorship. So, the guy wants to get laid. Big deal! |
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Cdaniels
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Dunwich, Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:44 pm Post subject: How are American women? |
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While I think PlayadelSoul has a valid point, I think the OP's response to PT were probably outta line. In the spirit of thelmadatter's post: If anyone asks me about American women I quote Kanye West's latest song, GoldDigger: If "you aint no punk holla We Want Prenup
WE WANT PRENUP!, Yeaah
It's something that you need to have
Cause when she leave yo ass she gone leave with half"
I lost out with my prenup, so don't say I don't have a sense of humor about this! |
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YanquiQuilme�o

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 122 Location: Quilmes, Argentina
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PlayadelSoul wrote: |
| Had this thread been started by a gay male asking about the quality of the gay scene in Mexico, would it have been met with as much venom? Makes one wonder if this isn't just an opportunity for some hetero male-bashing. |
Amen! I'm gay, and it made me wonder the same thing. I thought, "These PC hounds would allow me to ask about the gay scene in Mexico, but the poor straight guy can't ask? WTF?"
Teachers want to get laid, too. Good Lord. If you don't like the thread, IGNORE IT. Don't turn it into a flame war. |
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M@tt
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 473 Location: here and there
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: what a stupid thread! |
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chill out, people!
look, most mexican women are short and chunky, same as most mexican men. of course you will find a huge huge variety, and mexicans will love to tell you about how there are so many tall, thin, blonde mexicans, you would think you'd be tripping over them every time you get off the metro.
the secret is that those people dye their hair. haha just kidding. well, not really. the secret is that they live in little enclaves because they can't stand being around the people on the metro, who are often short and chunky. in fact, when you ride the metro it is quite possible that you will be with 2000 other people, none of whom you find "attractive." but beauty is subjective...maybe you will find your dream girl(s) here, and if you are just looking for cheap sex, there is plenty of that too, particularly if you are american, blond, white, whatever. this post may sound harsh, but when you come to mexico prepare to be judged 99% on your appearance, initially. it's hard to get past that superficial stage sometimes, but as i said, if you are "exotic" and you just want sex, it will serve you well. just don't expect fidelity. |
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YanquiQuilme�o

Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 122 Location: Quilmes, Argentina
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Matt, I heartily applaud you for sharing that dose of reality instead of cowering before the PC police. I wanted to say everything you did, but I didn't have the guts. Cheers. |
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delacosta
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 325 Location: zipolte beach
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Be very very careful with Mexican women. They will steal your heart and love you till the end of the earth, given the chance. If this should ever happen to you, consider yourself blessed,in the truest sense of the word.
As for me, I'm getting married this February with my 'Mexican woman.' After five years I guess the ladies in the markt were right, they warned me that despite being a confirmed bachelor, comitafobeand serial monogamist...that a mexicana would get me in the end. I have even taken care to not eat the iguana tamales (which supposedley results in one never leaving Oaxaca), and am pretty sure she hasn't geven me any 'toalache'.
However I got here, I am most happy with how things are working out. As it has been said before, Mexico is all about the heart. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Congradulations delacosta!!!!!
But don't be so sure about the toloache, they say it tastes an awful lot like cilantro.  |
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Cdaniels
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Dunwich, Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject: Mmmm, Iguana... |
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| delacosta wrote: |
| they warned me that despite being a confirmed bachelor, comitafobeand serial monogamist... |
I guess, if it were true, it would have been "commitaphobian."
Congradulations anyways!
More evidence that true love strikes when you least expect it!  |
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I was wondering where that Delacosta had gotten to, and now it all becomes clear!
Congratulationsment!! |
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Perpetual Traveller

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 651 Location: In the Kak, Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Mmmm, Iguana... |
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Hey congrats delacosta! Brilliant news!
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I guess, if it were true, it would have been "commitaphobian." |
How about commitaphobiac/commitaphobic? Hmmm may be the start of a new game for us appearing right here! Huzzah!
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thelmadatter
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1212 Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: short and chunky |
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Congrats delacosta!!!
M@tt.... good thing I like short and chunky (being short and chunky myself!)  |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Selma Hayek? I prefer Sonia Bragga. Are Brazilians Latinos? I suppose so-if your forbears are from the Iberian peninsula (or penisula) |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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As for pure physical beauty, I've always felt that if you took the most beautiful 1% of each country's women and made comparisions, I for one would find the Nepalese women the most beautiful with perhaps Italian, Greek and Thai women in roughly that order.
I did find myself very intrigued by the more beautiful Mayan Mexican women and found them to be real eye candy. Their short stature, however, makes for their being unwieldly sexual partners? I'm not into acrobatics. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Well geez, thanks for sharing. TMI!! Maybe somewhere on their forums they are describing their not much fun experience with you too. |
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