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maryknight
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 83
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: 3 month contracts? |
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My husband is not want to jump in with both feet. Is it possible for me to get a 3 month contract anywhere? I'd want to make enough to cover our living expenses and part or most of one plane fare.
THANKS for your help. I realize I have lots to learn.
I have a TEFL certificate, a un-related Masters Degree, and I really think I'll like teaching English. I had a good time in TEFL training.
My husband is retired and does not plan to teach. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: |
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See the other thread you started to get info on 3-month contracts. Extremely rare, and the only place that regulary advertises is Westgate Corporation.
Besides what is written there, you have to take into account setup costs for coming here. In only 3 months, you won't be able to make them up, so you'd be in the red by the time you left.
By the way, just what sort of work did your husband expect to do while you are here? Your salary alone will not support the two of you. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: Only in the summer months, realistically |
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maryknight wrote: |
Is it possible for me to get a 3 month contract anywhere? I'd want to make enough to cover our living expenses and part or most of one plane fare. |
In China, your only real chance for a 3-month contract is to come to a private language school in the summer months or else some kind of summer camp. EF English First, for whom I worked for two years, does offer summer positions at slightly lower rates of pay compared to those equally (or even less!) qualified and experienced who work 6- or 12-month contracts. However, the bonus, I think, is that they tend to pay summer teachers' return air fares. This was the case for two junior-year students from Ontario who taught at my school one summer before returning home to do their senior year. (By contrast, those working on 6-month contracts had only their one-way air fare paid.)
For the rest of the year, both private and public-sector institutions in China will expect you to commit for at least six months, since they will be responsible (bar the unscrupulous ones who try to pull the proverbial wool over the authorities' eyes and/or else have money to pay bribes) for paying for your visa, residence permit and foreign expert certificate.
They will therefore want a return for their investment inasmuch as they want people to stay for a considerable length of time. They invariably do not people who want to come and go fairly quickly as some, especially the young, out-of-college, backpacker-mentality, 20-somethings, wanting just to pick up some money and travel (therefore not taking teaching remotely seriously), tend to do, although I am aware that you and your husband are not in that kind of position. |
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Gregor

Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 842 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Mary,
Glenski's right about the three-month contract. Either you're going to wind up well in the red, or the school will. Not worth it for you OR them.
However.There is one exception that I know, and you need to either wait a while or get into action RIGHT NOW. In a lot of Asian countries, there are two very busy peak seasons. Summer is the biggest, but winter (January and February) gets jumping too. You MIGHT be able to get a three-month contract out of EF China if you can come in December. Wouldn't hurt to give them a go. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for the summer session. But here's the web site, in case you want it:
http://www.englishfirst.com/teacherinfo/recruitment/default.asp
It is NOT true, however, that you will not be able to support your husband. This depends on where you go, of course. I have supported my wife for three years now, bought a home and saved a very nice little nestegg. My salary's a bit higher than yours will be as an entry level teacher, but not so much that you'd have trouble.
I can't say for sure about Japan or Korea, but from what I've heard from friends there, it would be no problem. And I know for a fact that you could do it in Indonesia or China. As an entry-level teacher in China or Indonesia, you can not only support a spouse, but you can also save a good deal of that money. Most of my money went to cigarettes, booze and girlfriends with expensive taste before I was married, and even with all that I had months when I somehow failed to plow through the entire paycheck before the next one came.
If you and your husband are quiet, peaceful people who are happy enough to watch DVDs together at home and just go out occasionally, you'll end up saving 75% of your pay, in Indo. or China. And, again, Japan and Korea may be the same.
Plus, if your husband is properly retired, he has his own income, right? |
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nolefan

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1458 Location: on the run
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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the 3 months contract is fairly possible in China. Usually, there is nothing about airfare reimbursement in it but you could make enough cash to cover your living expenses and then some.
Even for the 3-monthers, accommodations are included so all your salary goes in food and what not. The little leftover can be used for travel within the country. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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There is one exception that I know, and you need to either wait a while or get into action RIGHT NOW. In a lot of Asian countries, there are two very busy peak seasons. Summer is the biggest, but winter (January and February) gets jumping too. |
That may be true for China, but it's totally different for Japan. Summer is a DEAD time, and so is January.
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It is NOT true, however, that you will not be able to support your husband. This depends on where you go, of course. I have supported my wife for three years now, bought a home and saved a very nice little nestegg. My salary's a bit higher than yours will be as an entry level teacher, but not so much that you'd have trouble.
I can't say for sure about Japan or Korea, but from what I've heard from friends there, it would be no problem. |
In Japan, entry level salaries are about 250,000 yen/month. They are falling, too, to such low levels as 170,000. Horribly pitiful.
Half of your wages go to basic necessities. With 2 people living in one apartment, food and utility costs will be higher, so you will pay out more than half. The rest is a tight fit for whatever else you have in life. Go out twice a week and drink MODERATELY, and you will burn another 50,000 yen/month EASILY. That means having hardly anything left over. I don't know about your friends in Japan, but they are either stretching the truth or they have more than just that one type of job/income to rely on. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know too much about China or Japan, but in Indonesia you can forget doing anything less than a year. No school will touch you, as they have to pay the gov't upfront for your one-year work visa and a year's income tax.
In Latin America, few schools will bother with a contract as short as three months but it's quite possible to get "under the table" teaching work that is piece-meal.
Unfortunately with such work, you'll be earning a wage that will barely cover your rent and daily expenses. You can forget about recovering your expenses for plane tickets, etc.
If you want to break even in Latin America, you have to be willing to commit to a full year, and even then it can be difficult. |
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maryknight
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 83
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:44 am Post subject: GOOD NEWS! |
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my husband is now willing to go for a year!
that will be a lot easier and more lucrative
and easier on me as a new teacher.
thanks for your comments! |
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