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jellyfish



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Not quite a newbie but... Reply with quote

I'm not exactly a newbie, I've been teaching in Korea for the last two years, and I taught in Africa with the Peace Corps for two. I love this job, I love the travel and the opportunities to meet new challenges living overseas. In addition, teaching EFL allowed me to meet my wife.

I'm enrolling into a master's program for TEFL in Poland. My wife and I have been planning our budgets and lifestyle there. Today we found that my wife is six weeks pregnant! Very Happy

My question on this post is simply this. Are there teachers on these boards with families? I'm very worried that I simply won't be able to support the family teaching. We're fairly open on where we live, though we definitely don't want to live in Korea anymore. Our dream destination is Eastern Europe.

We're not looking to save tons of money or move about. We're looking for a mostly permanent place to live and raise our children in the country we're living in.

Any advice, warnings, or reality checks would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course there are people with families out there teaching and thriving overseas. I support a wife and 2 young kids and live in Japan. I think you have the right idea, get more education. You need to get those good jobs if you want to support a family and you need a masters if you want to stay a step ahead of the competition.
There are many places out there that make it difficult to support a family if you expect your kids to have a high standard of living with all the fancy toys. However, from experience, kids need very little to be happy, in fact your time and love far outweigh anything you could buy them.
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younggeorge



Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 350
Location: UAE

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon's right in everything he says. My worries would be:

    1. The timing of your first child - I didn't have kids to support till I'd got the MA under my belt

    2. Your choice of location. Eastern Europe is not renowned for good pay and conditions. On the other hand, it should be relatively inexpensive to live in.

    3. The value of a Polish MA. Who's awarding it and will it be rcognised if you later want to get a job somewhere that pays better?


But you say you've planned your budget and all, so I presume you're going into it with your eyes open - go for it: if your priorities are the job and your family, you'll make it work.
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Cdaniels



Joined: 21 Mar 2005
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Location: Dunwich, Massachusetts

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Family Reply with quote

I would say pretty much everything depends on your wife. Does she work in TEFL? Does she have promising job prospects in Poland? Kids need very little to be happy, but ,ultimately, it will probably be your wife who decides if their standard of living is satisfactory.
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jellyfish



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for your responses. We've saved enough money to live with baby in Poland for the eighteen months of school. As far as I know, the university is accredited throughout the EU, North America and Asia. We're not sure of the Middle East, though.

My wife is TEFL certified, and she's also in process of getting her yoga instructor certification. She wants to open her own studio down the road.

Gordon, how are your children treated in school? Or do they attend an international school? We're strongly considering Hong Kong or Japan, but we're worried that schooling would be a strong issue.

Again, thank you all for your help and easing my worries.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jellyfish wrote:
Gordon, how are your children treated in school? Or do they attend an international school? We're strongly considering Hong Kong or Japan, but we're worried that schooling would be a strong issue.

Again, thank you all for your help and easing my worries.


My daughter just turned 4 last week and my son is 9 months. My daughter is in a preschool and loves it. She is the first foreigner to ever attend the school, in the 50+ years the school has been open. She is treated very well here, I think the teachers are kinder here than in our native Canada. Suffice it to say, our city does not have an int'l school. Generally, the elementary schools in Japan are good, it is the jr. and sr. high schools here you may want to avoid. That is far into the future for you anyways.

I started my master a year and a half ago and will finish in 8 weeks. It is a lot of work to juggle f/t work, school and a family, but possible if you cut everything else out. Not fun, but the time will fly. My wife has been the glue, supporting me through it all. I think she is more excited about me finishing than I am, and that is saying a lot. It feels like I just started studying (doing it by distance).

By the way, where are you doing your masters?
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jellyfish



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be attending Jagellionian University in Krakow. Its a full time program, so I should be finished with my MA TEFL in 18 months.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you know it is recognized internationally? Many employers look askance at degrees not earned in an English-speaking country, unless it is a branch campus from one of those countries.
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