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philippe8
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: JET after peace corps |
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Hi,
Im currently a Peace Corps volunteer in West Africa, and am applying to the 2006 JET program. I would have to leave my service early if I get an interview in February, so I have some questions to try to figure out whether it would be worth it.
Firstly, how strict is the JET program? I dont want to be dealing with another Peace corps big brother where every movement is monitored. Are you free to travel where and when you want during your off time or on weekends? How much time off do you have over the course of a year?
How selective is the program? If I leave for the interview, do I have pretty good chances of getting in?
How gay-friendly is the JET program? Will it affect my chances to be out in the interview? (will I be able to get a date in Japan?)
What kind of job satisfaction do you get? I know I dont want to teach for a living, but is it fun and worthwhile to do the program anyway as a way to live in Japan?
Id like to live in an area near nature/ wilderness, with outdoor recreation, though not too isolated (not after my year in a tiny african village!) Should I request this during my interview? Will it make a difference?
Finally, what kind of training do you get? is it worth it to get an esl certification anyway to have a better teaching experience?
Thanks for your advice!
Philippe |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: JET after peace corps |
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philippe8 wrote: |
Firstly, how strict is the JET program? I dont want to be dealing with another Peace corps big brother where every movement is monitored. Are you free to travel where and when you want during your off time or on weekends? How much time off do you have over the course of a year? |
JET is not really 'big brother' in that your employer will be the local board of education but you will be working in a local junior high school. essentially you will be an ALT or Assistant Language teacher and be assigned a supervisor to deal with any problems you have. JETs are given quite a bit of freedom of movement while on the program. I have not been on JET and depending on where you go you may have the vacations off (about 4 months a year) while others have to come to school during vacations even if there are no classes. I think officially JETs get 20 paid holidays a year.
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How selective is the program? If I leave for the interview, do I have pretty good chances of getting in? |
this is hard to say as JET takes about 2000 new people every year in over 20 countries. the selection criteria and panels are different in each place. the best you can do is prepare and ask people in your area what they did to get on the program. Getting hired is a bit of a lottery, in my opinion and there is no surefire way of being selected. It depends on what each place is looking for in a candidate.
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How gay-friendly is the JET program? Will it affect my chances to be out in the interview? (will I be able to get a date in Japan?) |
Gays in japan have been covered in other threads. though while there is no overt discrimination against gays, most japanese gays remain in the closet. this is not becuase of religious or prudish reasons but because japan remains a fairly conservative conformist society. Im sure there have been gays on JET among the 60,000 odd people who have been JETs over the years. Yes, getting a date should be possible but i will remind you in rural areas EVERYONE will know who you are, where you live and who you bring home at night. You may be the only foreigner living in your town and people will even know whether you put your trash out correctly. It wont hurt you to say you are gay but it wont help you either. as long as you can do the job and show the right attitude you may get considered. As you are working in high schools there is the issue of allowing you to work with children too.
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What kind of job satisfaction do you get? I know I dont want to teach for a living, but is it fun and worthwhile to do the program anyway as a way to live in Japan? |
The JET contract is only 3 years and as such is not a career job. JETS either stay on in japan and teach English or do other things. Your question is too general to do it justice here, but it will depend you such factors as your personal attitude, your location, what they get you doing, the Japanese teachers you are paired with, your adaptability to living in Japan, the Board of Education, how you deal with crises, language barrier etc. Whether you enjoy it is up to YOU but most JETs see it as a positive experience.
Out of 6000 JETs on the program 50% do not renew aftre their first year, though some complete the three years. As far as entry level english conversation type jobs go and compared to private language schools there is no comparison. JET comes out tops. they also pay air fare health insurance and pension.
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Id like to live in an area near nature/ wilderness, with outdoor recreation, though not too isolated (not after my year in a tiny african village!) Should I request this during my interview? Will it make a difference? |
You can request a specific location but there are no guarantees of where you are sent. they send people where they need them. Turn down an assignment and you may not be offered another one.
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Finally, what kind of training do you get? is it worth it to get an esl certification anyway to have a better teaching experience? |
JETs get basic training when they arrive in tokyo and there are teaching workshops for new JETs . the JET program assumes you have no prior training or experience in ESL. 90% of new JETs arrive with no experience or qualifications whatsoever. JOB. Just off the Boat.
Thanks for your advice!
Philippe[/quote] |
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craven
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 130
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: Small corrections... |
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Hey, sorry PaulH, I just wanted to clear up a couple of points about JET (and I am on the program)...
The contract is for one year, not 3...it's renewable every year, and you're under no obligation to stay for the full go.
You do have to pay for health insurance and pension premiums...you're on the national plan, so your board of education pays half the premiums, and you pay the other half (works out to about Y15-20000/month). You can get a partial refund on your pension payments after you leave Japan, and one great thing about JET is that they make this a VERY easy procedure (by providing the schools with specific instructions on how to do this for their ALTs).
As for the rest, I pretty much second everything you said. You're free to do whatever you like in your free time...of course if you're in a small town, everyone WILL know everything about you. You get out of the program exactly what you put into it: some people get bored because they have only a few classes a week, and some use this time wisely to study Japanese, or do correspondence courses.
The hiring process is a complete lottery...best advice I can give you is to show you have a little knowledge of, and desire to go live in Japan, but also that YOU DO NOT WANT TO STAY THERE!!!! As a government program, they are of course concerned with masses of gajin actually remaining in Japan.
One more small point to think about...most prefectures (not all) place their JETs in private apartments, which means you will have to pay "thank you money" and a deposit (a famously hated aspect of living in Japan). This will likely be between $2-3000 USD! In some cases your school can help you, but not always so it's good to have the money up front. The apartments are unfurnished, so expect to shell out yourself, or pay your predecessor for their used stuff (average is about Y40,000-Y50,000).
If you have more specific questions I can try and answer them! |
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dtomchek
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 135
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Hello:
Well, I served in the Peace Corps for 2 years and never thought anyone was "looking over my shoulder." They gave me as much or as little help as I wanted and, outside of of medical things, did not have much to do with the Peace Corps office.
Now, I also just got home from the JET Program. It is run by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs but you do not have any contact with them. That being said, the Board of Education you work for is another story. They are "Big Brother" in a major way. That is just the way the society is set up. Work plays a much bigger part in a person's life there than here in the US.
My advice is this: If you have a problem with the PC being in your face (and I cannot see how you could possibly think that unless there is a country by country difference), then you definitely want to stay out of Japan in particular and Asia in general (from what I hear).
I lived in a small town on Kyushu and it was great. No training is provided as most of it is on the job. If you have made it thru 2 years in Africa, you can do Japan with little difficulty. You can request in on the application from what I remember.
Like the PC, you get 20 days or so for time off to do what you want. It largely depends on the BOE you work for but, like the PC, you have to tell them where you are going (they have insured you so they have the right).
Job satisfaction was ok for a year. The 2nd year was also nice but a 3rd year would have been too much. I am never again going to get paid that amount of $$$ for that little work but I left after 2 years so that is not everything.
Good luck and let us know what you decide. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Here is some more info on the JET program
http://www.zen13795.zen.co.uk/jetsurvey/
You have 6000 JETs in every prefecture in every corner of the country, some in small villages, others living in large cities. I have come across female JETs who was sexually assaulted on the JET program and there have been a few suicides as well
For the most part its a positive experience but it all depends on how you cope with living in a foreign country where you do not speak the language, and you may be the only white person for miles around you.
Boredom and loneliness, as well as a feeling of being underutilised or put on show seem to be factors common to many JETs as well |
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kdynamic

Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 562 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Um, I recall the OP ever saying he was white
Anyway, I think if you made it through PC in Africa, you'll feel like this is the easiest job ever. It can be a lot of fun since ALTs get to play with the kids. Yes, people can always pick you out of the crowd as a foriegner (no matter what your ethnic background is) but it can really be fun because people treat you like a rock star. I thought I would hate the lack of privacy (which is kind of a problem but no more than any small town where you're the new kid on the block in any country).
I think you could do great on JET. If you're interested in Japan, apply! |
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earthmonkey
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 188 Location: Meguro-Ku Tokyo
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Just a comment about "being out in the interview". I think that would be a mistake. First of all, I don't think sexual orientation has any place in the context of a job interview. I've had many job interviews in my life and I can not think of a single time when I felt compelled to mention my sexual oreintation. More importantly, it could make the interviewer uncomfortable, which could lead to you not getting the job. People aren't really "out" in Japan as they are in the U.S. If you say "I'm gay." it could be the first time that person has ever heard that said.
As for getting a date, if you are in a small town, It's probably not so easy. Most of the people your age will have probably left for greener pastures. I'm not sure about this, as I live in Tokyo. I know that here you'd have no problems.
Good luck! |
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