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		| cypher 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Korea vs. China |   |  
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				| I am currently teaching in Korea (at a hagwon). For those out there who have taught in both places, how does they compare? 
 I have only ever taught small hagwon classes (no more than 11) so the thought of facing (let alone teaching) the 70+ students I've seen mentioned in some posts is a bit overwhelming.
 
 What are teaching conditions like in general? What are living conditions like on average? How likely are employers to live up to the contract?
 
 I understand that there will be a great difference in conditions between schools but any information would be appreciated.
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		| andrew_gz 
 
 
 Joined: 15 Feb 2005
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Information? Keep reading
 Use the search function
 Like Prego, it's in there!
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		| Noelle 
 
 
 Joined: 26 Mar 2005
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				|  Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I taught in China last year and currently teach in a Korean hogwon now.I liked China a lot because I was in a pretty good school for me (EF Hangzhou) although it sounds as though you have to be a bit wary of this franchise in other parts of the country. Some good... some maybe not so good. 
 The most obvious difference between the two I think is the salary. I started at 5500RMB in China (something like 600USD) and now of course I'm getting much more here in Korea. I feel like I work a lot harder here than I ever did in China. For me, China was like a vacation except for the weekends and I even worked a second job in Hangzhou at a Chinese univeristy. Still, it seemed much easier. The lifestyle there I found to be harder though.
 
 Anyhow, if you're in Korea now and you want to talk, PM for more details and I can give you my mobile number and some names of people who've had more experience in both countries.
 Good luck and happy holidays!
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		| saint57 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: I Did It |   |  
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				| Two years ago I taught in a hogwon in Busan. It was a large chain school. Typically, they worked us to the bone but they were honorable about everything. My maximum class size was 12. Last year I taught at an "international school" in China. Class sizes were up to 45. I used the same activities I used in the hogwon. The only difference was in Korea I rewarded students based on individual achievement but in China I'd make them work in big groups and reward the best group. It's a smooth transition. If you have some money saved from Korea you'll find your life in China will be great. Less classes, no stress, lots of holidays/cancelled classes. If your living of just your Chinese salary you'll be fine but wishing you had more cash. |  | 
	
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		| Noelle 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Is it just me or is Korea incredibly clean compared to China? 
 Mind you, I have not traveled all over each country.
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		| JZer 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I am currently teaching in Korea.  I only taught summer school in China but I think the difference is that education in China is a joke.  You are not expected to teach but to be there just for show.  A nice white face to make the parents happy is all that is expected. 
 Also if you are going to work in China you should look for a university position.  You only need a BA to get a Uni position in China.
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		| saint57 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The mountains in Pusan seemed to trap the smog in. I was in a small industrial city right outside of Shanghai. Everything was dirty but the air wasn't too bad. |  | 
	
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