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Omeo



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Where do I start? Reply with quote

Hello, everyone. First of all, I apologize if this is a repeat question. I thought I posted this yesterday, but when I came back to look at answers, it wasn't there. Anyway, I'm looking to start my TEFL career in Turkey; partly because I hear the jobs grow on trees there. First of all, is that true? Second, where's the best place to start looking for such a job? And I'm not just talking about what city is best; I also mean what schools are best to approach. By "best", I mean, who's hiring? Who pays best? Who helps with the paperwork involved in getting the jobs? Will anyone help me find accomodadtions? Should I contact the consulate? I'm just looking for some help getting started, here. Thanx in advance for the help. Thanx again. Hopefully I'll be talking to some of you soon and meeting some when I come over. B'bye.
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Frizzie Lizzie



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 123
Location: not where I'd like to be

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to come on a work visa, you'll need to have a job lined up first and ask the school to obtain a paper from the Ministry in Turkey saying you are allowed to work here. They'll need copies of certificates/degrees and passport from you for this. Once they've sent you this "granting permission" document, you need to go and apply at the Turkish Consulate in your country and wait...for a while (can take to as much as 6 months, I'm afraid) until your work permit is issued.
The names of several schools in Istanbul have been previously mentioned on this forum, but very few (still) offer accommodation.
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molly farquharson



Joined: 16 Jun 2004
Posts: 839
Location: istanbul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ET is hiring and offers accommodation.

If you don't want to wait for 6 months, come on a visitor's visa. The govt turns a blind eye to teachers working on a tourist visa. However, you can then get a residence permit, which would mean you wouldn't have to make border runs. Then the school can help you get a work permit, but it takes forever, probably longer than 6 mo. You might as well be here as waiting there Smile
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ak_tesl



Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Molly

I sent you a pm.

Thanks, Adrian
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N_Ashdown



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 19
Location: Winnipeg, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Molly,
What is involved in obtaining a residence permit, and does English Time pay for if you have to get a new tourist Visa?
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tekirdag



Joined: 13 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hear the jobs grow on trees there.


Far more job trees in Korea. Better pay too. I have lived in Turkey for a long time(so I guess I like it... Rolling Eyes ) but wouldn't say it is the best place for the first job. It used to be. Since the big ol economic breakdown a few years back, it has become harder for esl teachers. I left Istanbul for Seoul and spent about two years there. I had a good time and actually banked some good cash. I've been as poor as a church mouse since coming back to Turkey.... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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Frizzie Lizzie



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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Location: not where I'd like to be

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm speaking purely from personal experience, but Turkey was a great place to start my TEFL career in. If I had stayed in Central/Eastern Europe, I would have had nothing at the end of a contract. As things are, I've managed to save, live in a nice flat, pay for the Dip, and change my wardrobe completely. Mind you, I don't have a husband, nor do I smoke or drink, and I don't know how that would affect the situation...
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tekirdag



Joined: 13 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. Tis true there be more money here than Eastern Europe.

I suppose one's money situation can be greatly influenced by where ya come from. A plane ticket to Heathrow is a lot cheaper than to Hicksville, Canada.

Ahhhhh....Tekirdağ's feeling sorry for herself..... Embarassed
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molly farquharson



Joined: 16 Jun 2004
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Location: istanbul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught for many years in the US and I can say that my financial situation here is probably a little better than it was there, but not much. Some intensive language institutes in the US pay from the upper 20s only. The community colleges were paying mid 30s when I left there several years ago. The benefits were better but everything was much more expensive than here. It is getting more expensive here, as rents are getting way up there, but I think the life here is much better.

Money isn't the only reason most of us are here, galiba.
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Frizzie Lizzie



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't feel sorry for yourself Confused after all, we've all chosen to live away from families, and a plane ticket from time to time might "shake" our budgets a bit, but I think it's worth it. They miss us too!
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Ebenezer



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got used to many things here in Turkey, like Ayran, �ig Kofte, peper, things that I hated when I first came... I got married, lived with my in-laws for a while... got Turkish nationality, learned the National Anthem, but if there's something I just can't get used to, is this "come-on-a tourist-visa-and-work-illegally-for-us-it's-no-big-deal". But, I will... I will come to terms with that one, too.
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ugurgazanker



Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: work conditions right out of a Dickens novel Reply with quote

Is Molly Farquharson a PR person for ET, Doga and the other schools that have work conditions right out of a Charles Dickens' novel. Shame on you Molly if it is true!
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: chip van

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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molly farquharson



Joined: 16 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ugur i am not a PR person, but I know something about being here. If you look at my posts, they are balanced and direct, so no shame on me. I happen to work at ET and often struggle with the things that could be better, but basically the market here is what it is, which is not ET's fault. ET's work conditions are a lot better than many other and not out of a novel. What do you know about it? Or about me, for that matter?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it true that 'thrifty' has been declared an enemy of the people ?
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