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mep3
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: tenure? |
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| Can anyone tell me countries you know of where it's possible for foreign teachers to get tenure at the universities? And how difficult is it/ what kinds of requisites are there? Thanks .... Michael |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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In Japan it's possible but quite rare.
You need lots of experience, a higher degree, publications, Japanese language ability, applications to schools that advertise in Japanese-only sites, and tons of luck. |
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ls650
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've been asked to go through the process from tenure at the university I teach at here in Mexico. I've said 'yes' and will be going through everything required next month.
The requirements aren't nearly as strict for me as for Glenski; tenure is offered automatically to any teacher who successfully completes three consecutive contracts of six months. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| ls650 wrote: |
| I've been asked to go through the process from tenure at the university I teach at here in Mexico . . . tenure is offered automatically to any teacher who successfully completes three consecutive contracts of six months. |
Let me add to what ls650 wrote by saying this isn't true for all universities in Mexico. At the state university where I teach, no tenured positions have been offered to teachers in the EFL department during the past 10 years. Over half of us teaching in the department have been working there as non-tenured teachers for three to ten years. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I am just curious, what is university salary like in Mexico? |
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ls650
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Ben is right, my situation is not true for many (even most) universities in Mexico. As for salary, my take-home after deductions is about $1000 US per month. Mexico is more expensive than most other places in LA or Asia; my rent for a decent 2-bedroom apartment is about $230 US plus utilities, for example. I find that with my salary I live quite comfortably and save maybe $350 per month. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: Complex system of contracts |
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| I am just curious, what is university salary like in Mexico? |
University salaries can be sort of complex things in this country, because there are so many different kinds even at just one university, at least at the one where I teach.
On my type of contract (non-tenured,) if it were full-time (40 hours per week,) I'd have take-home pay of around USD $1,000/month + vales, bonuses, paid vacations, aguinaldo, etc. pro-rated to that amount. However, on my type of contract, if it were full-time, that would mean teaching 40 hours of classes per week, which would be impossible in the type of EFL program the university has. However, if I had a full-time (40 hours per week) tenured contract, with my qualifications I'd earn about triple that amount, teach only 21.5 hours per week, and have very few added responsibilities beyond what non-tenured teachers have. |
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Justin Trullinger
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Does this make you feel a bit hard done by to not be tenured? I think I'd be a bit ticked off...
Justin |
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