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ebs.inc



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:58 am    Post subject: Newbie Expectations Reply with quote

Hey all! My name is Clifford and I first must say that I have really learned alot searching through these forums. It's been educational and enjoyable. Thanx for all the info and perspective about ESL life in Japan.

I was curious to know: I have a deep interest in teaching at the university-level in Japan. (Actually, my interest goes well beyond, but let's just stick here). Are older people who are credentialed and eligible for university-level jobs usually preferred over younger candidates?

Second, by the off chance that someone is lucky enough to land a job at university, what degree of Japanese speaking ability would be beneficial for them to function in an urban setting? Are writing skills essential, or just reading?
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Doglover



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Expectations Reply with quote

ebs.inc wrote:
I was curious to know: I have a deep interest in teaching at the university-level in Japan. (Actually, my interest goes well beyond, but let's just stick here). Are older people who are credentialed and eligible for university-level jobs usually preferred over younger candidates?


It depends on what your credentials are and whether you satisfy each university's criteria. Your age is not really a consideration for most part time jobs (I know teachers in their 60's) but most schools seek at least a Masters, previous college teaching experience in Japan is preferred. Many jobs are advertised only in Japanese so some language ability is an advantage for getting an edge.

Full time jobs, age is tied to salary and older teachers cost more to hire, so many universities now advertise for younger teachers with higher qualifications e.g. PhD under 35 most desirable etc. They hire the best person available, not necessarily based on age alone.

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Second, by the off chance that someone is lucky enough to land a job at university, what degree of Japanese speaking ability would be beneficial for them to function in an urban setting? Are writing skills essential, or just reading?


There is no real difference between working in a city university or a provincial one.

I teach at a university (full time) in Kyoto and most of my school day except for classes is conducted in Japanese, though many part timers have ability ranging from basic to fluent. Intermediate level Japanese is highly recommended for full time contract positions but not needed so much if you are part time, as you only come in to teach your classes. Japanese ability is not a job requirement for part timers at most universities.

Im my case virtually all contracts, documentation, memos letters that go through my mailbox are in Japanese, though if you work at a Foreign Language studies university with many foreigners, many of the Japanese staff speak English and mail is put into English. It really depends on the school you apply to.
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ebs.inc



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Hmm... Reply with quote

Well,

I'm interested to learn more about how you obtained a full-time position at university and how long it took you to become fluent in Japanese (assuming it's not your first language). You said you conduct most of your day in Japanese, which leads me to believe you're not restricted to teaching ESL. Is this true?

For me, I am almost 24. I have my BA in Communications, and MA in TESL. I just began teaching Oral Communication 101 at the university from which I received my MA, though I'm not published yet. As for Japanese ability, I recently attempted the JLPT 4-kyu (which was difficult for me b/c I hadn't taken Japanese in 9 years, and was studying on my own). I enjoy studying Japanese, but don't have much opportunity to speak. I do not have extensive experience in the Japanese setting (2-week missionary trip this past summer, taught two lessons at a middle school); however, I have taught ESL informally to Hispanics in my community for nearly the past 3 years.

So, my heart is set on Japan (and I know that it's very competitive and difficult). I assume that I would go in on entry level (as I'm sure most of you have paid dues); but what other preparations would you suggest academically, and skills-wise that I make to teach at university level?
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abufletcher



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To put things in perspective several years ago my university had an opening for a 2-year non-renewable contract position teaching approximately 16 hours of general ed EFL classes for about 280,000yen a month (plus free housing and a few other perks). I posted a job announcement here on Dave's and we got over 300 applications. Of these about 30 were from people with an MA in TESOL or Linguistics -- most with a couple years of overseas teaching experience.

Nowadays the university seems to have settled into a pattern of just hiring anyone who happens to be avaiable locally to fill the slot for 2 years.

So yes, competition for university contract positions can be brutal. But you can also luck out so you never know. Apply for everything you can.

Whether Japanese ability is considered a plus in hiring depends I think on the people on the hiring committee. When I was doing this we didn't even consider Japanese ability. I'm currently in a tenured position (been in Japan now for 10 years) and I have to say that I really don't need much Japanese on the job or even around the office. They pay me to be a gaijin. Very Happy And even if I did speak flawless Japanese, I would probable still be treated like a gaijin.

Today's 5 hours department faculty meeting was all in Japanese (as usual). Unfortunately, I now know just enough Japanese to realize that I'd be far better off if I couldn't understand a word. Very Happy
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taikibansei



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted recently on getting Japanese university jobs from overseas. See the posts on this thread, beginning with the following:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?p=344107&highlight=#344107

PM me if you have additional questions.
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