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[canuck]

[ryuro]

I have to agree with Glenski and PaulH.

7+ years in Japan, many of those dealing direclty with immigration through recruiting teachers and not once have I had one of the teachers I recruited get a work visa without a BA (even with experience).

There are exceptions so nothing venture, nothing gained- you can certianly give it a try. I really wouldn't get your hopes too high.

I'm certainly not trying to disuade you, only provide info because Japan is a great place. But for everyone like ava77 there probably are 99 that didn't even get more than a glance from immigraiton before being turned down.

Regardless- good luck!

Cheers,
ryuro

[taikibansei]

[joshua s]

Thankyou CANUK. I think you should look up the word 'sneak' It would imply something underhanded. I am not doing anything like that. I asked a question and you gave a straight answer based on YOUR opinion. Not based on the law of the land. Others who have tried to help have been honest AND supported their information with something. YOU did not. So no, I dont have a BA but I will try any way. IF it gets the green light I will post again, If I get a red light I will also post again. The reason I will post again is so we can all learn something, or are you too smart to learn anything new with your BA. I will also be honest on the paper work just like i was in my post.

[canuck]

[abufletcher]

[canuck]

joshua s, you know what, it's highly unlikely that you can get a working visa in Japan. Most English teachers here have one, or some higher form of education. Companies don't want to have difficulty with immigration. Not having a BA complicates things and isn't a guarantee. When the very small percentage actually squeek through the cracks, it's because of a mistake at immigration or some sort of false paperwork. Your chances are slim, but not impossible, like anything in life. You can't lose, if you don't try, so put on your best and proudest face, and continue to fight the good fight. Battle on, and hopefully you aren't repressed by the B.A.'ist immigration requirements.

You've used your working holiday, and are trying to get back. You're looking for the back door, as you don't want to go through the process of getting a degree like the vast majority teaching here. I understand, Japan is a wonderful country. You are looking for support, a hug and some kind words to reaffirm what you already are thinking of doing and want to hear.

You want us to say you can get in, where the vast majority of evidence points in the direction of, have B.A., can do, don't pick up the scraps, hold on to hope, and try another route. You wanted a quick answer, and I gave it. Others provided minimal hope, although to you, it's an opening, a ray of light, the alchemist's dream...instead of making common rocks and metals into gold, taking the time to a warm fuzzy feeling of other experience to enter the doors of Japan.

I suggest a good luck charm (like a nice huggy bear, a Pokemon), neither of which have completed their BA in toyland, for advice, help and good fortune in your new founded goal and upcoming immigration trial to hold on to a former job. I wish you luck. Godspeed. It's my sincerest hope you receive more answers you would like to hear, so that it makes your journey that much easier on your soul

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have been so curt originally, even though you asked for the straight answer. I appologize.

[taikibansei]

[Zzonkmiles]

Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument that it is indeed possible to get a work visa without a college degree.

Now imagine you have two applicants for the same job. Both have comparable levels of similar experience, or a lack thereof. One applicant has a BA and one of them doesn't. Upon looking at their resumes, I'd imagine 99% of the time, the school would invite the BA-holder to an interview, rather than the degreeless candidate. Yes, exceptions always exist, but I think most people would take a 99% chance of success over a 1% chance.

The point is, just getting a visa is only half the battle. You still have to compete with other teachers here just to find a job. People without a BA are at the lowest rung of the food chain here, just one rung above people without a BA who are also not native English speakers. One other point to keep in mind is that schools that hire people without degrees are more likely to also be schools that nobody else wants to work at and have the worst conditions.

[PAULH]

[canuck]

double post.

[canuck]