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erinyes

Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 272 Location: GuangDong, GaoZhou
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Students like text books too - students like focus, and logical progression, and something to use in the future to revise from. |
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Gregor

Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 842 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Textbooks may well be a mere prop and nothing more than a way of giving a semblance of structure, direction and general feeling of proper-teacherness to things, but people expect them just like they expect you to shave, iron your shirt and arrive on time, especially in a business English context. |
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| Students like text books too - students like focus, and logical progression, and something to use in the future to revise from. |
These two points are rather where I stand with the course book issue. It's respect for a certain kind of student (of which I am one).
When I study anything, I like to have a book to refer to. It shows me some (possibly imagined) sort of progress, and gives me a useful reference. I can more easily remember what went on in class yesterday by looking at the relavent pages in the book, where I wrote a good number of notes and/or pasted extracurricular hand outs and whatever.
As a teacher, I love using them. I have finally come to the realization that even the really crap ones are useful. It's just for the sake of having a book with the language focus for the day in it. I could pull perfectly creative lessons out of my bung hole with just a grammar exercise book like Murphy's. No problem. I'd want to supplement a lot and so on, but it would be MUCH better for the students to have that than nothing at all.
That said, I am a particular fan of New Interchange, Brainwaves (once I learned how to use it), for kids, and younger kids, I LOVE, LOVE LOVE New English Parade.
If I were to open a school ANYWHERE (but particularly in China, where these books are easily available), I'd use N.I and NEP. I wouldn't even bother with Brainwaves, because NI is adaptable for kids who are too old for NEP. Brainwaves isn't necessary.
For reference, I'd suggest Swan (of course), Sound Foundations, by Adrian Underhill (MacMillan Heinemann) because teachers should have a comprehensive and functional understanding of the IPA and how to use it in class, and Rediscover Grammar, by David Crystal (Longman). |
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vikdk
Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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if you have to teach the very young - for example in the Asian markets - take a book on early learning development along. Having at least an idea of how a child learns in in tandem with it's developement helps the process of teaching enormously!!
by the way beware of some of the bigger chain operators out there, such as EF (English First) - they seem to be only interested in developing income in tandem to minimum company output - and any any focus on the actually well being of small children in these companies is vigorously brushed under the carpet A decent knowledge of why and how a child learns also should helps real teachers argue their way through the inevitable professional insult that these companies throw up in the name of profit.
good handy (weighs under 10kg) books on this subject should surely include - david wood's ... How Children Think and Learn
isbn 0-631-20007-x |
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SueH
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Moore wrote: |
| Textbooks may well be a mere prop and nothing more than a way of giving a semblance of structure, direction and general feeling of proper-teacherness to things, but people expect them just like they expect you to shave, iron your shirt and arrive on time, especially in a business English context. |
I was teaching an evening class in Italianin the UK and one of the students withdrew and asked for his money back because I was "using too much Italian" and, as not everybody had one at the start of term, I "wasn't using a text book ". |
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darkside1

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| 'Getting the b*ggers to behave' by Sue Cowley is useful for anyone tackling Young Learners teaching for the first time. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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I had a great technique/theory book on teaching English to kids, called "Teaching Kids English." Regrettably, I lent it to somebody, and don't clearly remember who...nor the Author or publisher.
Help? anybody know it?
Or if anybody reading this has inadvertently borrowed and kept it....
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some waygug-in
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 339
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: |
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One thing with coursebooks that I think has been overlooked here is that, especially when dealing with young learners, it is often helpful and very necessary to review what you have covered in previous classes.
Coursebooks make this a very simple matter.
It is also easier to keep track of what students have done.
Kids need brightly colored pictures, goofy drawings, logic puzzles and a combination of things that course books can bring together (if they are decent books).
I generally find coursebooks by Oxford to be much more useful to me as a teacher than books by Longman. Actually, I think Longman has put out some of the worst books on the market. Even their better series pale in comparison to the Oxford kids' books.
Whichever book you use, you need to suppliment it with your own ideas as well as things from the students' environment.
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Moore

Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 730 Location: Madrid
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| True, it also helps as you can get a rough idea what the previous teachers have (theoretically) already covered when taking over a class. |
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Aramas
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 874 Location: Slightly left of Centre
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| The Oxford Dictionary. It has nifty words like 'indispensible', which are infinitely preferable to MTV dialect abominations such as 'must-have'. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| The Oxford Dictionary. It has nifty words like 'indispensible', which are infinitely preferable to MTV dialect abominations such as 'must-have'. |
Maybe. The great thing about 'must-have', though, is that it has an obvious parallel in 'Wow, I simply must have/get/buy that book!'. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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I've found "Instant Discussions" and "Discussions A-Z" to be helpful books in the classroom; I use them almost daily. They have relatively interesting topics and ideas around which to plan the class, and you'll find much of the grammar is inherently found; also they're useful sources of pertinent vocabulary. Both can be found easily on
www.amazon.com
Good luck! |
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